Benelli Vinci Shooting Too High - Help!

[hognutz]

That looks like the bead you are looking for. The Nova sight screws in clockwise, then obviously the original comes out counter- clockwise. A small adjustable wrench or pliers will work, just don't go nuts with it.There may be a dab of Loctite on the sight on the Vinci so it may be a little tight at first. If you do use the Nova sight, put a dab of blue or green Loctite on it. Also if you re-insert the original sight , Loctite it again. I put the Easy hit behind the original Vinci bead. Looks o.k. to me. Again, I hope this works for you and let me know how it turns out. If you don't have blue loctite, you may want to order a small amount from Brownells along with the bead. It is a good thing to keep around for scope mounting etc. Good luck and stay in touch...Mike

[jed1894]

Will the Nova bead work on an M2?

jed

[upland_SD]

Thanks again for the info. Go run into the kitchen and tell your wife that you're a man of great detail!! JA JA. She what she tells you, LOL! Ok... well I'll certainly let you know how things workout. I'm going to try the Easy Hit first, hopefully that will do the job.

1000 rounds is a good amount of testing, you should be getting somewhat comfortable with the Vinci. What shell is giving you the best pattern for upland?

I tested the Remington Dove and Quail fields loads (7 1/2), the Winchester Super X Game Load (7 1/2) and the Fiocchi White Rhino (7 1/2).
The Fiocchi shell is a target load but i think it would work fine for dove and quail. It's 1250 FPS. The Fiocchi clearly had the best pattern, very dense, Winchester was second, not nearly as good, and the Remington were last - and the Remington shot to the left a bit as well. I've used those Remington's for 20 years and have killed thousands of birds with them, I was surprised, they really don't pattern well out of the Vinci. I'll probably try to find a good field load in Fiocchi and hunt with them.

Cheers and thanks again!!

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by jed1894

Will the Nova bead work on an M2?

jed

I'm sure it will work on the M2. I don't own one so I don't know what size is standard on them. The Nova sight is larger than any that I've seen on any other Benelli, so it will lower POI. on any gun that has a smaller style bead. I'm sure that the threads are the same, but not positive... I can't imagine them using different threads on the M2. Hope this helps...

[upland_SD]

Ok, I received the Champion Easy Hit! I installed the sight right up against the existing Vinci Bead and held in firmly in place with some electrical tape from a marine store! I went to the indoor range today and shot at some targets at 21 yards to look at the point of impact and pattern. With the Easy Hit installed and me putting the sight right on the target, I was getting about 90% of the pattern above my point of aim - this is actually quite an improvement.

My next test was to float the target just ever so slightly above the Easy Hit - bingo I was dead nuts on! I would say I'm as close to a 50/50 pattern as I've ever seen with any gun I've shot. As far as floating the target above the Easy Hit, I can probably live with that, and believe that's acceptable, but I don't think I'm going to stop at that point. For giggles I went out to the trap field and shot two rounds and I did just fine, I only missed a few per round. The funny thing about me and Trap is I don't really use any sight at all, it's completely instinctual where I point that gun, I really don't think about what I'm doing, I just swing the gun and shoot.

I'll go ahead and order the Nova Sight and see how that will work for me, unless you have a different suggestion?

Here is my questions to you. With the Nova Sight installed, how much more do you think it's going to lower my point of impact?
The Easy hit worked for you, but it seems I need more help. I really like that fiber optic site, I'm wondering if I could build up some height on the rib and put the Easy Hit on top of that, or somehow maybe try a larger fiber optic sight?

Well, that's it for now, looking forward to your response.

[hognutz]

The Nova bead will lower the POI, but how much I really don't know. The Easy hit is a great sight and it is hard to miss it when you pull the gun up. I see no reason why you couldn't put an 1/8" shim under the Easy Hit, tape it back on and try it. You may only need 1/16". Trial and error. I would find some stainless steel shim though and some good epoxy. Shim the entire length of the sight. Make sure it is right before you epoxy it on, and don't epoxy over the existing bead threads, if you have removed it. I would leave the old sight on and put the Easy Hit directly behind the original. A larger fiber optic would work, but they are hard to find. Most are just magnetic. At least you have it where you can shoot it. Worst case scenario is you leave it where it's at. Sounds like you can adapt. Let me know how it shakes out... Mike

[hognutz]

I have sent you a P.M. Mike

[CA.H20Fowl.Hunter]

Thanks to all those that posted their issues and solutions. It help me with my high shooting Vinci.

Here's my story...

I got my Vinci on 1/2/2010. I've done two POI patterning sessions.

My Vinci has a "Point of Impact" (POI) 9" inches high at a 40 yard target using #2 steel waterfowl loads. Pellet counting calculated to a pattern of 75/25.

I shot from a stable platform. Used both the Benelli IM choke and a Trulock PH IM choke - results were the same with both. The "Point of Aim" (POA) for my POI testing and calculations was the center of the bead with the vent-rib straight and level, front and rear edges lined up, mid-bead dead center of muzzle bead.

As most know, "Point of Impact" (POI) pattering determine where the gun shoots and no amount of shimming or gun-fitting can change the gun's POI. Where shimming and gun-fitting come into play is to change the shooter's "Point of Aim" (POA). A shooter's POA can be adjusted so that the relationship between POI and POA is where the shooter desires.

I have sucessfully compensated for my Vinic's high POI with a combination of shimming (C-shim) and with a HiViz sight. The bead on the magnetically attached HiViz sight is much higher (relatively speaking) than the factory muzzle bead. Both of these adjustments raise my POA so that this new POA is almost exactly pointing at the guns POI. My pattern with these adjustments is about 55/45, which is acceptable.

Other than my Vinci having a high POI, it excels in all other factors that I consider important to me as a waterfowl hunter.

How much does my Vinci's high POI matter? (even though I compensated for it). I must admit I'm a bit disappointed having to have a $10 piece of plastic magnetically stuck to the end of my $1400 gun to make it usable for my hunting needs. If I do keep the Vinci long-term I'll get a permanent replacement bead (the magnetic will move on you if you hit tules and such).

Keep in mind that this is an issue with my particular Vinci and my specific preferences. If my Vinci shot an acceptable POI, I would be totally satisfied.

I enjoy my Vinci, and will finish out the season with it. After the season I'll decide if I'm going to keep it. I'll speak with customer service, but I've heard their response is going to be that Benelli's are "designed to shoot high", and my 75/25 POI is probably within their specifications (unfortunately its not within mine).

[texas skeeter]

Originally Posted by upland_sd

i have a benelli vinci and it's shooting 8 inches high

aim lower!!

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by CA.H20Fowl.Hunter

Thanks to all those that posted their issues and solutions. It help me with my high shooting Vinci.

Here's my story...

I got my Vinci on 1/2/2010. I've done two POI patterning sessions.

My Vinci has a "Point of Impact" (POI) 9" inches high at a 40 yard target using #2 steel waterfowl loads. Pellet counting calculated to a pattern of 75/25.

I shot from a stable platform. Used both the Benelli IM choke and a Trulock PH IM choke - results were the same with both. The "Point of Aim" (POA) for my POI testing and calculations was the center of the bead with the vent-rib straight and level, front and rear edges lined up, mid-bead dead center of muzzle bead.

As most know, "Point of Impact" (POI) pattering determine where the gun shoots and no amount of shimming or gun-fitting can change the gun's POI. Where shimming and gun-fitting come into play is to change the shooter's "Point of Aim" (POA). A shooter's POA can be adjusted so that the relationship between POI and POA is where the shooter desires.

I have sucessfully compensated for my Vinic's high POI with a combination of shimming (C-shim) and with a HiViz sight. The bead on the magnetically attached HiViz sight is much higher (relatively speaking) than the factory muzzle bead. Both of these adjustments raise my POA so that this new POA is almost exactly pointing at the guns POI. My pattern with these adjustments is about 55/45, which is acceptable.

Other than my Vinci having a high POI, it excels in all other factors that I consider important to me as a waterfowl hunter.

How much does my Vinci's high POI matter? (even though I compensated for it). I must admit I'm a bit disappointed having to have a $10 piece of plastic magnetically stuck to the end of my $1400 gun to make it usable for my hunting needs. If I do keep the Vinci long-term I'll get a permanent replacement bead (the magnetic will move on you if you hit tules and such).

Keep in mind that this is an issue with my particular Vinci and my specific preferences. If my Vinci shot an acceptable POI, I would be totally satisfied.

I enjoy my Vinci, and will finish out the season with it. After the season I'll decide if I'm going to keep it. I'll speak with customer service, but I've heard their response is going to be that Benelli's are "designed to shoot high", and my 75/25 POI is probably within their specifications (unfortunately its not within mine).

Glad that it worked out for you. I wish that my Vinci would have been made to shoot lower, then the shooter could de-shim, to raise the POI to his desire. I enjoy my Vinci as well, but it's kind of like ''Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play''! Oh well. Good luck.