Still having Problems with my M1

[woodsie]

If you recall, this is my problem on my 4-5 year old M1.
What happens is, I shoot, and it ejects the first shell, and while its bringing up the second shell, its getting caught in the bottom of the action, almost like its closing before it brings up the new shell, and they the action gets stuck about at the end of the brass.(plastic side)
To bring the new shell up, I have to Pull back on the action, and then it slides in.
Today for the first time, the gun locked back and stayed in the open position like it was empty, but it still had the third shot left.(which was in the bottom of the reciver)
I dont know if this is part of the same problem.
2 weeks ago, at everyones advise, I put the Factory recoil spring back into it, and the original magazine spring.
I keep it well oiled with Breakfree CLP, and it was in the 50's today.
It was good for one hunt, and after that it has jammed a couple times, and today I shot a lot, and it jammed several times.
One thing to note is that when I push the Carrier (long retangular metal peice on the bottom of the reciever) in and out like when cleaning or looking at it, it sometimes sticks in the upwards position.
Could that be the problem.
I am shooting the Kent TM 3" shells.
I shoot this gun alot, both with Kent heavy shells, and a TON of Sporting Clays and skeet. During a busy month, I can easily go through a case of shells. I wonder if some pieces could just be wearing out.
THANKS for your help,
W.

[ 01-21-2006, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: woodsie ]

[woodsie]

I think I have found my problem. Me and my buddy were looking at my trigger assembly, and on the Carrier, there are two grooves that have worn into one of the sides. This is Exactly where the shells are stopping.
My buddy let me use his trigger assymbly, to make sure that was it.
If this is it, this is pure wear and tear, as I probably have 30 or 40 thousand rounds through this gun. I shoot ALOT.
Thanks,
W.

[JDE]

woodsie, there are many M1s in Argentina that have over 800K rounds through them with no breakage or plaqueing problems.

i would investigate your problem further as i doubt it is just wear & tear at 30K? Joe

[woodsie]

Not just wear and tear, but actually the carrier wearing down in one spot(about an 1/8 of an inch.), which is excactly wear the shells are getting stuck.
Not sure what else it could be.
Original Recoil spring back in it. Original magazine spring back in it.
I put my buddies Trigger assymbly in it,Shot it about 12 times yesterday, and no jams. Guess well have to see with one more weekend of duck hunting left.
Thanks,
W.

[BLACK JACK]

Have you taken your trigger group and tried it in your buddies to see if that causes jams in his gun?

[tkharris]

Your explanation makes a lot of sense to me.

I had a brand new 11-87 I let a friend take to Argentina and when he brought it back it would constantly jam a shell on the carrier. I found a groove had been scraped in to the carrier and every other shell would hang up there. I ground it out and it was the end of the problem. That was with a new gun.

I guess it illustrates the quality difference between Remington and Benelli.

[zemzabob]

"woodsie" How did it go? Did it go ok on the last day of the hunt and did you put your trigger in your buddy's gun? What happened?

[woodsie]

It shot fine with my buddies trigger assymbly in my gun. I called Benelli, and they believe it has to be the groves worn in the Carrier, and are sending me a new one today.
W.

[Hornblower]

I have a nick on the carrier of my 7 yr old SBE.
This year I have had countless jams with the second shell on the carrier. Same symptoms We hunt in dirt goose pits, and on windy days the
the receiver is filled with sand. I have always hought it was the sand. I have replaced the recoil and mag spring with a Wolff. Still problems. The nick is on the left side of the carrier when installed.

[woodsie]

Mine is on the right side of the carrier, and it is WWWAAAYYYY more than a nick. The shell stops right at where the worn part is.
W.