Postitive Spin on Cheney Hunting Accident

Me · 03-01-2006, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by tucker301:
Enjoyed all of the comments and discussion.
I'm a little disappointed we didn't solve these problems here and now, but intelligent discussion is better than argument and conflict

Regarding the sale of public lands that T Dubya mentioned.
http://www.fs.fed.us/land/staff/spd.html

hmm...99 acres for sale in Alaska.

**garren** · 03-01-2006, 09:11 PM

[ 03-22-2006, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: garren ]

**Butch-M** · 03-02-2006, 09:18 AM

Okay ... LOL

In regards to “invasion” ... did we “invade” Europe during W*** to free France, Belgium, Poland, etc, etc, etc from Hitler???

If a rat comes into my home and bites my kid ... do I wait for him to make repeated trips into my home trying to get him? No ... I seek out the rat’s nest and kill every rat in it! If the rats are in the Mideast ... beware.

If you aren’t willing to fight for your freedom ... then your nation will fall to the evil usurpers. The dominant culture will prevail. Unfortunately ... that’s the nature of man. Accept the end to your bloodline. The Jews are a small nation ... insanely outnumbered by people and nations with the specific avowed intention of killing them all. They have found a way to survive through strength. (And our tens of billions in annual aid) <smile>

Calling a spade a spade ... we hear daily from the liberal media about the unconscionable and horrendous Jewish loses during the holocaust over half a century passed ... but they say NOTHING about the OTHER seven million people murdered by Hitler. Nor do they ever mention Stalin’s MILLIONS murdered. NOR the Arminian genocide. OR African genocides! OR ... Saddam Hussein’s hundreds of thousands in mass graves ... WHY??? Was not the death, the fear, the destroyed families just as appalling???

Anyway ... I’m not so naive as to think the developed world’s insatiable thirst for cheap? oil isn’t intrinsically wound into this Mideast “war.” The Chinese are sucking up the worlds raw materials at an astonishing rate ... largely fueled by Corporate America’s moving operations to China’s boundless supply of talented cheap labor ... Wal-Mart for instance. (The average Chinese wage is 25 CENTS per hour) That drys up a source of Japan’s oil supply because China is keeping theirs for Corporate America’s Chinese factories ... enter the Russians and their stake in the oil revenues. USA is looking to secure our share of the pie. Exxon/Mobil wants your money. Politicians want your vote but have to balance that against the “perks” afforded them ... paying $4.00 to $6.00 a gallon for gasoline isn’t going to your vote. There’s BIG money at stake over there ... and corporations and Capitalism bow to no nation and know no borders, nor offer any loyalty to anyone other than their profits, shareholders, and money. Do you THINK for one second that they care about “displaced” American jobs? Or the unemployment rate? Or a wage that you can live on??? LOL Sooooo ... should Iraq, Afghanistan and via the domino effect other impoverished nations ruled by rich tyrants embrace democracy ... we win.. WE being Exxon/Mobil and those of us driving 7,000lb gas guzzling Silverado pickup trucks getting 10 mpg. Sure we want the Iraqi people to be free ... but it’s far more complex than any philanthropic ideals outlined in OUR Constitution & Bill of Rights. A “LOT” of people have a LOT to gain if we FAIL ... therefor there are far more forces working against us than just the small potato, wacko fools blowing up babies. What’s going on in the Mideast is far more akin or similar to the end of W*** where the USSR was trying to gobble up as much of Europe as they could ... than you know.

As far as the French & Germans dealing with riots as a byproduct of embracing cheap labor ... reaping what they’ve sown. Are we not doing the same thing with allowing 22 million undocumented Mexicans into this country??? We’re paying $50,000.00 for two nights in a hospital largely to pay for the millions of illegals living and birthing in emergency rooms throughout the nation. Driving down wages, burdening school systems, AND turning this nation into a two language, two culture country. Historically ... NO two language, two culture nation has ever successfully survived. BUT ... illegals are cheap labor for the republicans and future votes for the Democats. The politicians will never close that border. We reap what we sow.

Trust me ... NOBODY is more in favor of ISOLATION-ism than me. I’d put a 30,000 volt fence completely around our border and park M1A2 Abrams tanks every half mile. LOL Our carriers would be patrolling OUR coasts, not in the Mediterranean. And ... woe be to anyone screwing with us or an American citizen. The hundreds of BILLIONS in “aid” we send to the rest of the world??? ENDED!!! I’d feed, cloth, house, and educate every kid in the mining town back roads of Kentucky, Indian Reservations and Harlems throughout the nation with THAT money. There would BE no poverty. There would be no HOMELESS. There would be no lack of education. BUT ... that ain’t the real world of power, politics and profits. We have to work with what we’ve got. It may not be ideal ... but I’d much prefer being here in the USA than anywhere else! Like one guy said “he judges a country by the number of people trying to get in or the number of people trying to flee out” We’ve got a border problem because we’re great. (For now anyway) LOL

**john1911** · 03-02-2006, 11:24 AM

Wouldn't it be great if the politicans would control the borders? Surely we have enough military assets available to patrol our borders. If a group of volunteers w/ lawnchairs and binos can stop movement in a portion of AZ just think what battalions of armed servicemen could do.
John

**garren** · 03-02-2006, 01:05 PM

[ 03-22-2006, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: garren ]

**Butch-M** · 03-02-2006, 02:16 PM

I fail to see any racism in railing against the people who commit genocide and murder. To me the term "racism" or racist is all to often being applied to anyone disagreeing with the liberals point of view and/or their agenda. God help you if you say anything negative about Israel for instance. Germany, Italy, Mexico, Russia, etc, etc and you're fine; fire away. Run down the USA and you're even embraced ... but Israel or blacks and you're immediately branded a racist or anti-Semite. It doesn't mater how true your words, nor how constructive your intention. I'm not buying into media forced and applied censorship and mind control. There are certain things I like about Israel and certain things I don’t ... same as my ancestral homelands of Germany, Italy and Ireland. I expect to be able to voice an opinion about ALL of them. YOU have a First Amendment RIGHT to speak your mind!

AMENDMENT I (http://fact.trib.com/)
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

"Politically Correct" is just a freedom stealing tool being wielded by those who control the dissemination of information to the masses. Unfortunately, they’ve gone a long way towards making it a crime to “speak” certain words in this country by circumventing “Congress” and the First Amendment through liberal judges and the courts. To “interpret” "fashion" & "mold" the law ... as they try to do with our “RIGHT” to keep and bear arms.” THE LAW IS APPLIED ... NOT ... “INTERPRETED!” So ... if you as an Arminian have a problem with the Turks (or me, or anybody else) ... don’t be ashamed to say so! You just said yourself as to your e-mail ... “at least IT’S HONEST!” Your honest thoughts and feelings. If more people “said what they mean ... and meant what they said” we’d all be a lot better for it. Whether we agree with them, abhor their words, or think they’re as nutty as a fruit cake.

Say ... speaking of our liberal media and getting back a little to the original Cheney Hunting Accident theme... here in the NY metropolitan area ... we’re being BOMBARDED with anti-gun and gun control newscasts and newspaper articles ever since Cheney winged Harry. They're now trying to establish "Gun Courts" here in NJ for the specific intention of prosecuting "gun crime." Every channel, every newscast since then! They even aired the Columbine school shooting movie to further their cause. Has the same thing been happening elsewhere?

**Remy** · 03-02-2006, 03:21 PM

garren,

So the illegal Mexicans who illegally sneak into our country are "worker bees" not "users". You better talk to someone who has an intimate knowledge of hospitals (such as my wife) or k through 12th grade education (such as my brother).

These "worker bees" are putting hospital emergency rooms out of business, left and right as well as costing legal American citizens billions of extra dollars to educate the children of these criminals------yes thats right, people who break the law are criminals!

That bulls**t about them doing jobs that citizens will not do is a lie. Their presence allows greedy companies to underpay many jobs and make more profit for the owners. Go out to a construction site and what do you see---------mostly illegal alien criminals. Those are jobs citizens will do, but the presence of the illegals allows construction bosses to pull off a scam and make more profit. Get rid of the illegal alien criminals and you would have all kinds of family wage jobs for legal citlzens.

Hey, if getting rid of illegal alien criminals will make the price of my tomatoes and lettuce go up a 40 cents a pound, so be it. I will either pay it or go without. These criminal aliens need to go, and I mean now. If it takes a wall or the whole Marine Corps. to do it that is fine with me!

**tucker301** · 03-02-2006, 03:42 PM

Well, I've read all of these posts and I have a couple of observations to make.

1. I'm pleased to see that these issues can be discussed civily, without anyone stooping to personal attacks.

2. Apparently, and correct me if I'm wrong... but apparently, there are varying opinions on the subject

**john1911** · 03-02-2006, 06:23 PM

Remy you are absoluletly right. The illegals are costing this country way to much. It would be interesting to know how much of each of our tax dollars go to providing services to illegals. Any body have any numbers?
It's a LIE to say the illegals do jobs citizens won't do. There have been times I would have gladly taken a job that's been stolen by illegals.
John