What three guns would you take into battle/survival situations

[Gallo Pazzesco]

I live in the country and have no plans to head into any big cities should society collapse, so, yes, I'd be living in the woods. I'd be very happy to carry my suppressed Ruger 77/22. It's light, it's cheap to shoot, and extremely quiet. I could pick off unsuspecting bandits/invaders with close-range, silent head shots, as well as put wild game on the table.

Okay, a suppressed 22 has it's place for game getting, but strictly because it might make it more difficult for someone to zero in on your position after firing.

But come onnnn - give me a break. Shooting unsuspecting bandits/invaders with close range, silent head shots? You're kidding right?

LOL

Don't be silly. If, and this is a big IF because I never see this happening in this country, but if that were to happen and if you were to run-up on more men than you have, well trained, well armed and well motivated men, you should just get your stuff together and un@$$ the AO and forget about them if all you are armed with is a suppressed 10/22, trust me. E&E out of there as fast and you can, pop smoke and get. Seriously. I've been there. You have no idea what you are typing when you type something like that. It's just silly.

[Steve1968LS2]

Great line of reasoning BigHat, the only thing I would also consider would be ammunition replenishment. 5.7 is not a common caliber and would much more difficult to source in the type scenario's this thread would be considering. 5.56 and 9mm would probably the easiest to find.

If stuff gets that bad I imagine replenishment will be an issue except what you can scavenge.

In that case I bet you can scavenge .223 weapons as easily as .223 ammo.

If I'm bugging out (ie, away from home).. I'm going to be evading and trying to stay out of fights. This means the 500-700 rnds I'm carrying will last a long time (with luck forever). The weapons and ammo I chose were based on weight which is very critical when traveling on foot.

[M4Madness]

Okay, a suppressed 22 has it's place for game getting, but strictly because it might make it more difficult for someone to zero in on your position after firing.

But come onnnn - give me a break. Shooting unsuspecting bandits/invaders with close range, silent head shots? You're kidding right?

LOL

Don't be silly. If, and this is a big IF because I never see this happening in this country, but if that were to happen and if you were to run-up on more men than you have, well trained, well armed and well motivated men, you should just get your stuff together and un@$$ the AO and forget about them if all you are armed with is a suppressed 10/22, trust me. E&E out of there as fast and you can, pop smoke and get. Seriously. I've been there. You have no idea what you are typing when you type something like that. It's just silly.

I have a suppressed M16 for those types of situations. In a SHTF type situation, more than likely you'll be dealing with untrained individuals whom have no goal beyond killing others for their food and supplies -- the local population. And, no, I'm not some delusional survivalist who prays for that type of scenario. On the contrary, I have made very few preparations for such an event. I would like to think at 43 that I'm wise enough to choose my own battles and not attempt to take on an enemy platoon with a bolt-action .22LR.

Heck, even Wikipedia sees the bigger picture:

The .22 LR has also seen limited usage by police and military snipers. Its main advantage in this role is its low noise, but it is usually limited to urban operations because of its short range.

The Israeli military used a suppressed .22 LR rifle in the 1990s for riot control and to "eliminate disturbing dogs prior to operations", though it is now used less often as it has been shown to be more lethal than previously suspected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle

Suppressors were regularly used by agents of the United States Office of Strategic Services (OSS), who favored the newly designed High Standard HDM .22 Long Rifle pistol during World War II.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor

Some more interesting reading:

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i.../t-412581.html

[StrangerDanger]

Must have been a reason that I bought and stored a 100 bricks of 550 rounds of federal 22lr. Oh yes, I have a 22lr conversion kit for my Ar15 MRP -- Dual role rifle. Fwiw, 50k+ rounds of 22lr weighs about 600 pounds.

[DMHDAVID]

AR15 in .223, colt 1911 45ACP, and Remington 11-87 12 gauge All are easy to clean, functional and ammo is common place. Think about how common these three calibers are. These are based on your friend has the 22lr and ammo covered. And I may re-think my picks! That a pump 12 gauge would be better than the semi auto. Looking at my first picks as being all semi auto a simple pump might be a smarter choice for a scatter gun. Thinking about repairs that may be needed in the field a pump Ithaca Featherlight or Winchester would be better than the 11-87 . If I could only have one it would be my trusty 1911 gold cup! Light and easy to carry, easy to clean and disassemble with no tools. 45acp ammo is in every town. If my friend was leaving me I'd try to trade the 1911 for the .22lr.

[markdstump]

If, for instance, the super volcano beneath Yellowstone blew, and I had to fend for my family--to at least some extent for at least some time...I'd want:

A Browning BL 22
Then a shotgun-A Benelli,
Then a real rifle! Maybe the R1 in .338, maybe...

If I could add a 4th it'd be a Barrett in .50BMG
or maybe a Remington Sendero in .300 Win Mag for accuracy.

[stockplayer]

Lmt 16" piston in 556

Benelli m4

Les Baer 1911 .45

The same guns i use for IDPA multi gun

Proven set up for me

[rhane71]

I am going to have to side with M4 on this one. The 22L is one of the most under rated weapons. They have been used in war many times. If you and your crew were plundering and one of them gets shot in the head and dies in front of you, you are going to think twice about taking another step. The Ruger 77/22 that he is shooting is a top of the line weapon. I am willing to bet he can place tight groups at 50-100 yards. I know I can with mine and I don't know anyone who wants to fight after taking a 22L in the eye, face, neck, or head. At 100 yards a 22L can take anyone out of a fight. You could bring the rain down on a group bandits without giving up your location and I would be willing to bet you could take out or down 5 or more people before they even knew what was happening. That alone would scare 99% of people and force a group of bandits to go back the way they came.

[M3S90]

Colt/BCM middy
Remington M700 (Benelli M3 if shotgun is a must)
Glock 21

[colonialmilitia]

I would take an AA-12 with a 30 round drum clip along with a mark 23 45. auto and a G-22 300. win mag these are unobtainable guns except the mark 23 but I would want them.