please help with lab training issue

[VINCIshooter]

I have a & yr old lab and i cannot get her to wait to retrieve until i command her to she bolts off as soon as the dummy is thrown or bird falls and its not safe with hunting in the blind she can stay pretty well but when a duck or dummy comes she takes off what can I do to stop this even though shes older?

[texas skeeter]

first off your sig line is funnier than sh-t!! and second off, your dog reminds me of my 2 yr old son!! damn kid is a bolt of lightening!! ^_^

[Rock Hall Goose'n]

Some dogs never get over breaking. Have you tried a check cord or an 'E' collar?

My 5 yr old lab has a real hard time while hunting. When she hears or sees birds the only thing between her ears is feathers. When guns go off she will break. I screw a 1" eye bolt into the corner of the blind & use a short lead to tether her to the blind so she cannot break. I use two lengths, a 16" and a 12" with clips on both ends depending on where I can secure the eye bolt and the blind seat configuration. This way she cannot break, steal food or knock over guns. Last season she made 110 retrieves this way. Of those 105 were blind retrieves from inside a pit. This season she has made 79 so far. All but 2 of those were blind retrieves. When i take her off the short lead she knows she is going to work. Once sent there is no chance she won't find the bird.

[VINCIshooter]

first off your sig line is funnier than sh-t!! and second off, your dog reminds me of my 2 yr old son!! damn kid is a bolt of lightening!! ^_^

sorry about that ive gotten this bad habit of hitting shift then the number it was sopposed to be 7 not & sorry

[VINCIshooter]

Some dogs never get over breaking. Have you tried a check cord or an 'E' collar?

My 5 yr old lab has a real hard time while hunting. When she hears or sees birds the only thing between her ears is feathers. When guns go off she will break. I screw a 1" eye bolt into the corner of the blind & use a short lead to tether her to the blind so she cannot break. I use two lengths, a 16" and a 12" with clips on both ends depending on where I can secure the eye bolt and the blind seat configuration. This way she cannot break, steal food or knock over guns. Last season she made 110 retrieves this way. Of those 105 were blind retrieves from inside a pit. This season she has made 79 so far. All but 2 of those were blind retrieves. When i take her off the short lead she knows she is going to work. Once sent there is no chance she won't find the bird.

exactly my dogs problem i could do the bolt thing i really dont want to resort to a shock caller ive seen dogs really change from them, i have a check cord but im not exactly sure what to do with it i bought a kit from bass pro shops with a duck scent, a bumper, and check cord. my biggest issue is my dad and grandpa they think she needs to stay still and get told when to get the bird so its a matter of satisfying them if i cant get her trained by next season im gonna try the bolt thing cause im tired of sooting withing walking distance, i did find this website that had an idea to put your dog on a lead and have it heel and walk past bumpers and say no heel when they reach for it then as soon as they quit reaching for it say retrieve or i say get it!, then do it repeativly untill they quit breaking, maybe itl help your dog also.

[TMAC]

My 5yr old lab breaks once and a while, when hunting with other dogs mostly.

If you dog is breaking on just throw dummies, then start with staking his butt to the ground and let him hang himself a few times followed by some punishment for breaking.....then repeat till he gets it right....not all in the same day or week but keep running this drill.

Once you have that down thow in some live fire or starters pistol when the dummy is thrown, and if he breaks start staking him down again. Sooner or later he or she should get it.

In a hunting situation I normally tie my dog to the boat or blind the for the first few bangs of the morning, if he behaves we leave him free.

This might work and easy to do.

[VINCIshooter]

My 5yr old lab breaks once and a while, when hunting with other dogs mostly.

If you dog is breaking on just throw dummies, then start with staking his butt to the ground and let him hang himself a few times followed by some punishment for breaking.....then repeat till he gets it right....not all in the same day or week but keep running this drill.

Once you have that down thow in some live fire or starters pistol when the dummy is thrown, and if he breaks start staking him down again. Sooner or later he or she should get it.

In a hunting situation I normally tie my dog to the boat or blind the for the first few bangs of the morning, if he behaves we leave him free.

This might work and easy to do.

thanks ive been throwing the dummies and holding my dogs leash and letting her just stand there and yank until she figures out shes not leaving haha but the i will unclip the leash without her seeing and yell fetch and then repeat over and over for about 20 minutes shes getting allitle better still as soon as she sees the dummy its full speed ahead than she just barks till i let her go but i dont let her off till she quits pulling the leash like when theres allitle slack.

[TMAC]

Your going to need a heavier hand than that......ever consider a trainer. Also that barking is not tolerable, or at least to me it wouldnt be.

[VINCIshooter]

Your going to need a heavier hand than that......ever consider a trainer. Also that barking is not tolerable, or at least to me it wouldnt be.

well I have always wanted to start my own duck dog kennel when im allitle older i plan to, my dad use to train hunting dogs, so ive learned some from him so I want to do it all my self to prove to him and my grandpa that I can, ive watched alot of hunting shows and even the bird dog shows the labs bark till commanded, so I dont see it as a big deal im considering a choker chain so when she goes to do that initial first pull she will get the idea. i dont know if that would work or not??

[cowboykyle]

You might try the choke collar and put a long leash on it. Before you put the long leash on it put the clip through the handle part so that you have a big loop. put the loop over one of your shoulders and threw your other arm, then attach the collar to the dog. Now play fetch. This will make her wait for you to tell her to retrieve the dummy/toy/bird. Start without the big bang (gun shot, probly after a week or two dont rush it). This has worked for every dog ive trained. Hope it helps. Doing this you have two free hands one to use to wrap around the dogs mouth...using whateve command you want to stop the barking. i use quiet..if need be while your hands are wrapped rub her lips up and down on her teeth. Persistance pays off. Any questions let me know.....