Benelli AR15ish ARGO Rifle Thingy
Never considered myself an assault rifle kind of guy but I may have to get me one of these. I can send it off to Italy with my M4 and have them engraved as a limited edition matched set...set number 1 of 1.
Benelli MR1 Carbine (Civilian Beretta Rx4 Storm)
Benelli, not wanting to miss out, has entered the lucrative black rifle market with Benelli MR1 Carbine, a 5.56mm gas piston operated rifle.
Benelli MR1 Carbine The MR1 Carbine is the civilian version of the Beretta Rx4 Storm. Benelli, a subsidiary of Beretta, designed the ARGO gas system used by the MR1/Rx4 and, at least in Italy, manufactured both the MR1 and the Rx4 Storm. I suspect that the MR1ís sold in the United States will be manufactured at the Beretta plant.
So I wonder what they did or whos arm they twisted to get the OK to bring this to the states. As the RX4 it's realease was pushed back again and again only to be cancelled. Needless to say I am going to pick one of these up.
Given Steve's post on the deterioration of the ARGO gas piston in his well-maintained R1, I think I'll stick with the tried and proven AR-15 design.
Last edited by tucker301; 08-26-2009 at 01:18 PM.
Yeah, proven to be unreliable when not meticulously maintained. lol
Originally Posted by tucker301
That was taken care of back in the early days of Viet Nam. But you go ahead and keep living in the past.
No, proven by the Contras in the jungles of Central America, as told to me by someone who was contracted to be there.
Originally Posted by tucker301
It doesn't take an astrophysicist to conclude that something which ****s where it eats is going to get indigestion on occasion.
Where's the daggone skeleton stock from the Rx4? WTF is with Benelli USA and its refusal to make collapisble stocks available in the US? They know we Americans demand adjustible LOP, don't they?
And, yes, the AR-15 is considerably more reliable that it was back in the 16's and early 70's; particularly with piston systems becoming the standard moving forward. That said, because of its close tolerances, it can still jam quite easily when grime gets around the bolt head; and civilian rifle manufactures are making more and more AR's without forward assist and ejection port covers. I'm going to stop there before I get too off-topic and start ranting. Suffice it to say, the AR-15 is still my go-to firearm if I need a carbine for mid-range target engagement. (But I'm a Marine who keeps his firearms very clean.)
Last edited by LeoAtrox; 08-26-2009 at 11:08 AM.
Being that you're a Marine who experienced the proper training in care and maintenance of the M16 DI platform along with the discipline to do so makes all the difference in the world. The AR is definitely not suited to someone who lacks that experience, especially noobs.
Originally Posted by LeoAtrox
I've been very interested in the gas piston conversions on the AR, not that I'm a big 5.56 fan, but I'm heavily leaning toward the 6.5 Grendel. But as a friend pointed out to me the other day that most, if not all (the LWRC complete rifle possibly being the sole exception, dunno about the Ruger) of the piston conversions on the AR are showing an inordinate amount wear on the buffer tube in very short order as a result of the off center vector applied to the bcg by the piston.
I'm really looking forward to the BM/Remington ACR and would really like to get one in 6.5G.
Last edited by Sukhoi_fan; 08-26-2009 at 11:34 AM.
Here are some pics of the ARGO system from what I'd call a moderately used hunting rifle.
If they're putting the same system in these new rifles, then they're headed for disaster.