Called GG&G today and ordered for my M4

[Mr. Shotgun]

the oversized charging handle and oversized bolt relase buttons. Paid $159 shipped for the two items.

Got it from GG&G direct, spoke with the sales rep who was real nice and asked me how I liked the M4. I told him "I love it" need to find time to shoot it more.....

anyway, i cant wait to get these parts and install them.

[Decodence]

I only ordered their bolt release as I didn't particularly care for their charging handle. They apparently ship from Tucson, so next day shipping for me.

[Unobtanium]

Hrmmm, Why GG&G over Celtic Mist? 2X the cost.

[Mr. Shotgun]

Hrmmm, Why GG&G over Celtic Mist? 2X the cost.

never heard of them...

[Decodence]

never heard of them...

The CM button doesn't seem in the same league as the GG&G button, honestly. Is the later worth twice the price... maybe.

[StrangerDanger]

One issue with the GG&G oversized bolt release is it can be a cheese grater for your hand.

Also, you should have bought it from Brownells with the discount. You would probably get it quicker. It would be shipped from out of State (arizona) to avoid sales tax.


It is mandatory that you have the proper sized punch to remove this device. Trying to skate by with a drill bit or some other bubba'smith method won't work. You will end up marring the **** out of the receiver. The pin traverses the receiver rail that the BCG reciprocates within. So you have to drive the pin to an exact depth in order to avoid binding. This is easy to do with quality tools.

If you don't have a good set of punches, I recommend these:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3...#565/827525860

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=4..._Kit/080000241

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3..._Set/080685000

Pay attention to where the bolt release spring seats before you disassemble. The spring is not held in place or indexed by anything. It's simply held between the release and the receiver. Note where this place is, to avoid future headaches and guesswork.

I had the GG&G oversized bolt handle for a while also. I noticed that the carrier was more sluggish due to the added weight.
The GG&G unit is approximately 24.5 grams. The stock unit is 12.5 grams.

I would opt for the Titanium model from Design Concepts, but they were sadly discontinued. Kip is releasing a Titanium model in the near future. I predict the machining will be better on Kip's than on the DC model. The knurling was poorly done on the DC handle (cosmetic issue only).

[Unobtanium]

The CM button doesn't seem in the same league as the GG&G button, honestly. Is the later worth twice the price... maybe.

I have not used one, looks good, but I have not personally fondled one. My GG&G button WAS good fit/finish. But you need to use those in conjunction with a larger charging bolt.

[Unobtanium]

One issue with the GG&G oversized bolt release is it can be a cheese grater for your hand.

Also, you should have bought it from Brownells with the discount. You would probably get it quicker. It would be shipped from out of State (arizona) to avoid sales tax.


It is mandatory that you have the proper sized punch to remove this device. Trying to skate by with a drill bit or some other bubba'smith method won't work. You will end up marring the **** out of the receiver. The pin traverses the receiver rail that the BCG reciprocates within. So you have to drive the pin to an exact depth in order to avoid binding. This is easy to do with quality tools.

If you don't have a good set of punches, I recommend these:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3...#565/827525860

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=4..._Kit/080000241

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3..._Set/080685000

Pay attention to where the bolt release spring seats before you disassemble. The spring is not held in place or indexed by anything. It's simply held between the release and the receiver. Note where this place is, to avoid future headaches and guesswork.

I had the GG&G oversized bolt handle for a while also. I noticed that the carrier was more sluggish due to the added weight.
The GG&G unit is approximately 24.5 grams. The stock unit is 12.5 grams.

I would opt for the Titanium model from Design Concepts, but they were sadly discontinued. Kip is releasing a Titanium model in the near future. I predict the machining will be better on Kip's than on the DC model. The knurling was poorly done on the DC handle (cosmetic issue only).

I bought my punch-set from harbor Freight for something like $8. It worked fine. This is an easy operation and shouldn't cause any bubba marks. Use common sense and SOP for spring-loaded parts held in by a pin and you will be fine. This means slave pins, etc. should be used or improvised/

[Decodence]

When I swapped it out, I used a second punch to properly align the lever from the bottom while I drove the pin in from the top. This kept everything in perfect alignment.

[Mr. Shotgun]

One issue with the GG&G oversized bolt release is it can be a cheese grater for your hand.

Also, you should have bought it from Brownells with the discount. You would probably get it quicker. It would be shipped from out of State (arizona) to avoid sales tax.


It is mandatory that you have the proper sized punch to remove this device. Trying to skate by with a drill bit or some other bubba'smith method won't work. You will end up marring the **** out of the receiver. The pin traverses the receiver rail that the BCG reciprocates within. So you have to drive the pin to an exact depth in order to avoid binding. This is easy to do with quality tools.

If you don't have a good set of punches, I recommend these:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3...#565/827525860

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=4..._Kit/080000241

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3..._Set/080685000

Pay attention to where the bolt release spring seats before you disassemble. The spring is not held in place or indexed by anything. It's simply held between the release and the receiver. Note where this place is, to avoid future headaches and guesswork.

I had the GG&G oversized bolt handle for a while also. I noticed that the carrier was more sluggish due to the added weight.
The GG&G unit is approximately 24.5 grams. The stock unit is 12.5 grams.

I would opt for the Titanium model from Design Concepts, but they were sadly discontinued. Kip is releasing a Titanium model in the near future. I predict the machining will be better on Kip's than on the DC model. The knurling was poorly done on the DC handle (cosmetic issue only).

When I swapped it out, I used a second punch to properly align the lever from the bottom while I drove the pin in from the top. This kept everything in perfect alignment.

thanks for your input guys....im kinda nervous about installing this by myself though...