M4 Slug gun? "How to" advice sought. In pursuit of venison.

[cleefurd]

Given the apparent unavailability of M4 slug barrels,; What recourse is recommended?

>Rifled choke
>Rifled slugs with ?_____? choke
>Which ammo?
>Deer hunting would be the main purpose.

[sneakerfreak602]

I stand corrected per Duggan. It is smooth bore M4 upon closer examination.

[cleefurd]

I would use a high grade sabot slug such as a Winchester or Hornady. Being that the M4 is a rifled barrel sabots would be preferable over rifled slugs. Let us know how the hunt goes and maybe post some pics.

OK maybe I was mistaken. Are you saying that there IS an M4 rifled barrel available? Mine is smooth bore.

[sneakerfreak602]

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[cleefurd]

Where did you get it? Is it an 11707? Must be a barrel product code on the box. Guess I'll have to find that # and source one. If that is the case, I'm selling my M1 which I only kept as my eventual slug gun thinking the M4 would not have that option available.

[sneakerfreak602]

Thats correct 11707. Purchased at Cabela's. Your should have came with one. Maybe some else can chime in with there M4 opinion as well. I stand corrected smooth bore.

[NTSOS]

Thats correct 11707. Purchased at Cabela's. Your should have came with one. Maybe some else can chime in with there M4 opinion as well.

My 11707 is a smooth bore as well.

Here is the lettering on the box end bar code:

M4 LR PG STD LE COLL APSE REC

......and the lettering on the side bar code:

FSA M4 18.5" SI TC+FP 5C USB G RILS PG

John

[Mr. Shotgun]

mine is smooth bore as well... can i fire rifled slugs out of a smooth bore barrel?

[cleefurd]

mine is smooth bore as well... can i fire rifled slugs out of a smooth bore barrel?

Yes Sir. As I understand it, smooth-bores shoot rifled slugs better than sabots. The pre-placed rifling on the slug will actually generate rotation in the smooth bore by design. The rifled choke I considered as an option, will impart rotation to any slug, leaning I believe towards non rifled, and sabots. I'm still a little green on the subject, which is why I'm asking too.

[Duggan]

I refer you to this thread where I typed pages on this subject, battling another forum member rather unnecessarily over this issue.

http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/show...hlight=m4+slug

To address the points brought up in this thread:

1) - Your M4 does NOT have a rifled barrel. If you have a rifled barrel, something is seriously wrong.
2) - Sabot slugs are meant for rifled barrels "only". Refer to pictures below to see why.
3) - Smooth bore shotguns should use rifled slugs
4) - Rifled chokes, from everything that I've read, provide very little stabilization ... way less than a full length rifled barrel, and less than a rifled slug in a smooth bore barrel.
5) - You can shoot a slug through ANY choke. You can shoot slugs through an extra full choke without damaging your weapon. However, for BEST ACCURACY, use a looser choke, such as a modified.

In more detail, here ... this a sabot slug. As you can see, it has no rifling on the actual slug, and is meant to be stabilized by the rifling in a rifled slug barrel. This rifling stabilizes (spins) the slug, giving it superior accuracy at longer ranges, and increases terminal ballistics due to this spin.





While sabot slugs CAN be shot through your m4, there is no reason to do so. Sabot slugs in general cost 2-3x as much as rifled slugs, and they NEED a rifled slug barrel in order to take advantage of their design.

If you shoot sabot slugs through your M4, you are basically turning your m4 into a musket. The sabot will have nothing to make it spin, so it will exit the barrel with negligible spin and go who knows where. You are completely negating the superior accuracy potential of the sabot, and the terminal ballistics as well.

In short, sabot slugs NEED a rifled barrel in order to be worth a damn. If you don't have a rifled barrel, skip the sabot slugs and use a rifled slug, as seen on my next post ...