11707 no longer being sold to civis ?!

[ccwinmemphis]

Any confirmation of the rumor that Benelli is no longer offering the 11707 for the civilian market ??

If this is true, are they offering another version of the M4 to the public ??

Any info would be appreciated !

[MrMilitaryPolice]

I spoke with them personally last week(as i stated on here) and they told me in no uncertain terms that the 11707 version of the M4 is "NO LONGER BEING MARKETED TO CIVILIANS, MILITARY AND POLICE ONLY"thats a direct quote. The same was said about the adjustable stocks , they are no longer allowed to be marketed to civilians. Supposedly those rules were already in efffect and the ones that were on the market are the only ones out there. I spoke to the CS rep for 8 mins about these topics and the current state of affairs..well the next day a poster on here stated that he had spoken with Benelli CS and they had toild him the opposite about the 11707 but the same about the stocks, so in fact, who knows?? The CS i spoke with was very upset about the matter and suggested that i contact my congressional rep and make my feelings known. The point of that is that he was very upset with the current trend and felt as if ATF was trying to run them out of civilian market so apparently he had to have some extensive knowledge but im just repeating what i was told..2 answers in 2 days from Benelli CS..so again, who knows?

[vagabundo94]

I spoke with them personally last week(as i stated on here) and they told me in no uncertain terms that the 11707 version of the M4 is "NO LONGER BEING MARKETED TO CIVILIANS, MILITARY AND POLICE ONLY"thats a direct quote. The same was said about the adjustable stocks , they are no longer allowed to be marketed to civilians. Supposedly those rules were already in efffect and the ones that were on the market are the only ones out there. I spoke to the CS rep for 8 mins about these topics and the current state of affairs..well the next day a poster on here stated that he had spoken with Benelli CS and they had toild him the opposite about the 11707 but the same about the stocks, so in fact, who knows?? The CS i spoke with was very upset about the matter and suggested that i contact my congressional rep and make my feelings known. The point of that is that he was very upset with the current trend and felt as if ATF was trying to run them out of civilian market so apparently he had to have some extensive knowledge but im just repeating what i was told..2 answers in 2 days from Benelli CS..so again, who knows?

Bizarre! MrMilitaryPolice - I'm just curious, if you happen to know, what specific rules make it so that Benelli can not offer this gun to civilians? Did the CS you spoke to give you any specifics?

I understand the threads about the gun being illegal should one take an M4 and add a full-length magazine tube to it (because of it also having a pistol grip stock), or replace the factory stock with a collapsible one. (I've read that here on this forum, but have no understanding of this particular law other than what I've read here). But neither of those issues would seem to prevent Benelli from selling the version of the M4 that they have been selling to civilians.

And if Benelli is forced to pull the M4 out of this market, I'm curious what that means to current civilian owners of the M4. Do we all own illegal guns? I've seen it before where the ATF gave a stamp of approval on a gun for the civilan market, and later rescinded, claiming that the gun was actually illegal. And then it was illegal for the people that had already purchased it to own it.

[MrMilitaryPolice]

The CS rep i spoke with was very angry about the ban and he directed his anger towards the ATF and told me repeatedly that i should contact my congressman, but he was as unhappy about it as i was. The military version of the M4 (11707) will no longer be sold to civilians according to him. The adjustable stock to fit the 11707 will no longer be sold to civilians according to him. I guess its much like the ban on the 2 shot extension, they are available for M&P but not civilians. I do not know what law/rule/ or reasoning the ATF is using to stop these sales but apparently its pretty effective. As far as what you have to add/remove to make your gun legal..im not really sure, the water is kinda muddy on that one, some say 2 US parts, some say 5, some say more, so i just dont know. I do know the entire thing is senseless ..what difference is there between a US made mag tube and an italian made mag tube?? aside from maybe quality...NOTHING!! so it makes alot of sense, but then again, i feel like the ATF is full of idiots anyways..

[STA]

The CS rep i spoke with was very angry about the ban ... The military version of the M4 (11707) will no longer be sold to civilians according to him.

Did you get the CSRs name?

Wonder what he'd say about the fact that Benelli just added their new camo model (11717) to their website (yes, just added this week after the news of the M4's demise here on this forum).

Damn shame of Benelli to waste such marketing efforts on a shotgun they won't be selling. Good thing all the new kids here got an M4 for Xmas.

[Fett Tracking]

I'm telling you. do not waste your time talking to customer service people. If you want a better answer, ask to talk to their boss, or go even higher up. Their cs has been so ****** that I refuse to anybody thats not a manager.

[MrMilitaryPolice]

STA, you may not realize that there are TWO versions of the M4 shotgun, one is the 1014, it will continue to be sold to the public but it will not accept adjustable stocks, the the 11707 version is the military and police version that has now been restricted to the public, it has the adjustable stock..the mag tubes have already been restricted and price went thru the roof, but you will still be able to get an M4 , it just wont be with all the bells and whistles...you know how dangerous those adjustable stocks are!

[Kinny]

Like I mentioned at another post. I'm just going to buy a SOCOMGuy tube for my M4 and call it a day. Hopefully the 11707 is still available for the rest of you guys.

[MrMilitaryPolice]

that exactly what i did, got my 11707 with FACTORY full length tube, with ADJUSTABLE stock...can you say, sweeeeett??!!

[Kinny]

Hehe, I was going to go for a pair of M4s with the exact features, but later found that the supplies to the collapsable stocks are drying up. Prices have definitely shot up. I figured it's not really worth it. Hopefully Surefire will come out with their forend so I can add that to the M4 #2. I figure if I can't make them completely the same, I might as well make them completely different.