Shooting the R1, I can tell you that the the gun shot perfect groups with Federal Barnes Triple Shock 180.. Does anyone know how to adjust the Trigger... ??????
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Shooting the R1, I can tell you that the the gun shot perfect groups with Federal Barnes Triple Shock 180.. Does anyone know how to adjust the Trigger... ??????
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The R1 trigger is not adjustable.
An experienced professional could improve it by polishing the engaging surfaces of the sear.
My trigger guage only goes to 72 ounces, and it wasn't even close to releasing.
Hey Benelli, why not buy Savage Arms and put the Accutrigger on the R1?
As you idea, Your picture don't very warm and wet. Have much die of bird. I think this isn't only a game.
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Bummer! That trigger seems like 3 times a normal factory lb
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FOR SALE...slightly used Benelli R-! rifle
I recently bought an R-1 in caliber 308 Win. I have shot nearly 2 full boxes of ammo trying to get it sighted-in. Unfortunatley for me I didn't know about the "GARBAGE" trigger until after I had already bought it. I would never have spent this kind of money on a rifle that will not shoot anywhere as accurate as a $379 remington model 700 bolt action in the same caliber.
My rifle has been impossible to sight-in. I attribute this to the trigger pull issue. (My kids have a super soaker squirt gun with a crisper feeling trigger). Why a quality gun maker such as Benelli makes a gun that requires 6.5-7.5 pound trigger is beyond me.
I put a 3x9 leupold european 30mm tube scope on it with burris rings that required shimming on the picanny mount (another issue in itself). None of the quality scope makers have mounts for the R-1. Be prepared to mix and match scopes and rings.
I had planned on buying a Benelli shot gun next but I have reconsidered that decision as I am so disqusted with the R-1 rifle.
Customer service (non-service) never sent me the catalog I requested. It still hasn't come to this day. Do not waste your time emailing because of the simple reason they do not write back.
While the R-1 is a handsome looking firearm looks can be deceiving because it does not have the preformace or service to back it up. I will be putting my R-1 on consignment A.S.A.P.
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In the first place, if you believed that the cost of the rilfe is directly attributable to its accuracy, regardless of design, build, and intended pupose, then you are severely ignorant of rifle design and function.Originally posted by DreamHuntz:
I would never have spent this kind of money on a rifle that will not shoot anywhere as accurate as a $379 remington model 700 bolt action in the same caliber.
My rifle has been impossible to sight-in. I attribute this to the trigger pull issue.
I have a Savage bolt action that will shoot 1/2" groups and outperfom any Remington factory gun at 60% of the cost. My R1 cost me nearly three times what the Savage did, but it won't shoot 1/2" groups, nor did I expect it to.
Secondly, if you are unable to sight in the R1 because of the trigger pull, then you are completely incompetent and should not own a rifle of any make.
Thirdly, the R1 is a semi-automatic hunting rifle. It is not a finely tuned target weapon. It's designed to compete with the BAR, and it does so very well.
It's not designed to go head-to-head with the likes of Cooper, Savage, Kimber, and the lowly Remington on paper.
There are things that can be done to the R1 to improve its accuracy, but you seem to have your mind made up.
Finally, I'll give you $600 plus actual shipping to my FFL tomorrow.
PM me if you're serious about getting rid of that piece of junk [img]tongue.gif[/img]
[ 08-31-2005, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: tucker301 ]
As you idea, Your picture don't very warm and wet. Have much die of bird. I think this isn't only a game.
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tucker301 you sounded like you almost knew what you were talking about. Any rifle that boast the quality of the Benelli should shoot better than the average if speaking of quality. The bolt locking system and lock time should make the first shot out of the barrel comparable to any rifle on the market. A well seasoned barrel will make an enormous difference in performance but the Benelli trigger for lack of words (sucks). A Savage and Remington both are within the same price range. I have both but. Until you compare the same caliber, barrel length and trigger pulls and optics you can't compare. The R1 is a close quarters hunting utensil. With the groups that I have seen shot 3" to 4" groups at 100 yds is not satisfactory at 200yds. It's not designed to go head-to-head with the likes of Cooper, Savage, Kimber, and the lowly Remington on paper
heck in my opinion its not designed to go head to head with anything. I would take a Remington 700 with a bent barrel over an R1...It may not shoot straight but i can adjust the trigger like I want and what the heck neither one is accurate
[ 09-01-2005, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Dr-Burns ]
Junior Member
In the first place, if you believed that the cost of the rilfe is directly attributable to its accuracy, regardless of design, build, and intended pupose, then you are severely ignorant of rifle design and function.Originally posted by tucker301:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DreamHuntz:
I would never have spent this kind of money on a rifle that will not shoot anywhere as accurate as a $379 remington model 700 bolt action in the same caliber.
My rifle has been impossible to sight-in. I attribute this to the trigger pull issue.
Secondly, if you are unable to sight in the R1 because of the trigger pull, then you are completely incompetent and should not own a rifle of any make.
[img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]You are probably the most arrogant person that I have ever read a post from...I will invite you to shoot a 6lb trigger against mine any day. Trigger pull is the key to accurate consistant groups. I can see that you like many others, that holding an FFL doesn't make you knowledgable of firearms or abilty to shoot. Ask any shooter what determines accuracy.
1. a good trigger
2. bolt lock up and lock time
3. cartridge chambering and spacing on or off lands
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Howdy, doc!
1. The angry post was a troll from the start. Maybe it's loosely based on some semblance of fact, or more likely a skewed perception of fact, but a troll nonetheless. Therefore, my arrogance was not only warranted, but more than likely expected by the OP.
2. I do not now, nor have I ever held an FFL. Never said I did.
3. Simply stated, if I can get decent groups from my R1's overly heavy trigger, then - all other factors being equal, ringo should be able to do the same. Yet, he places all of the blame on the trigger pull.
Now that all that's out of the way, let me review your little 1,2,3 of accuarcy.
Assuming you assign an equal measure of importance to each item on the list, I will agree that all three are parts of a very complex accuracy formula. But you've left out so much that it calls into question your own credentials.
Are you really a doctor, or do you just play one on the forums?
Consistency on the parts behind the buttplate (grey matter, nerves, skin, blood, and bones) is essential.
On the mechanical end of things....
Barrel harmonics can play a huge role in sporter weight barrels. Having the bullet exit the barrel at the same point in the barrel's movement on each shot is critical. Having the bullet exit the barrel when it's in the center of it's ramge of movement each time is bliss.
Sporter weight barrels can be tricky. Some do best with a free-floating barrel, while others perform with slight, consistent presssure applied just forward of the recoil lug. Most semi-auto hunting rifles do not have barrels that can be floated, so it's important that the physical connections which fasten the barrel, action, and stock together are of good quality and minimize their succeptibility to variances due to temperature changes, vibrations, etc.
Selecting the proper bullet length and weight for the given barrel length and rate of twist is a big step towards accuracy.
I could go on and on about primers, bc's, rifling, head space, handloading, optics, humidity, crosswinds, thermals, burn rates, case capacities, canting, etc, etc., but I'd be boring a man of your vast lnowledge.
The simple fact is that ringo has placed 100% of the blame for his large groups on trigger pull, but that is not an accurate whole picture of what's going on.
Yeah, he could have a lemon, but with moronic statements such as the one he made above, it's easy to assume that he doesn't know a lemon from a peach.
[ 09-01-2005, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: tucker301 ]
As you idea, Your picture don't very warm and wet. Have much die of bird. I think this isn't only a game.
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Are you consistanly an arse or do you just try to play one. I'll give you $600 plus actual shipping to my FFL tomorrow. as you can see from your own post that you did state that. Yes I know that powder, temperature, barrels, primers, casings, overall length, seating depth, crimp/ pressure during seating,bullet manufacturer and consistantly from the same lot as they all have variances. But overall you will see more concern of trigger jobs than anything else. As you have stated before the Savage is one of the best shooters out of the box. I have the old style trigger that is adjusted and polished that will shoot with any bench gun. I also have the 10ml with accutrigger and would prefer the old style. I'm used to touching a crisp trigger applying 1.8 lbs and have it fire. I do not personally own a R1 nor will I. If I was going to spend that kind of money it would be a pre64 winchester model 70 featherweight. The problem with the groups in the R1 is that at 3-4 inches at 100 on a moving animal that 4in could mean a wounded animal. a Quartering towards means possibly gut shot thru no vitals. But before this goes any further is there away to lighten and smooth the trigger that doesn't cost an arm and leg..Remember the impression that you give is the one to be remembered. To each his own but the demeaning of one human being by another is unwarranted. I feel that you have enormous amounts of animosity built up inside and that you feel that by belittling someone elses abilities makes you feel better about youself and your own inabilities. Please forgive my typing skills but my hand writing is worse. I just thought of something else and rather than an additional post. There is no 1,2,3 rule for fine tuning a rifle. What works for one may not work for another even if same make and modelOriginally posted by tucker301:
Howdy, doc!
2. I do not now, nor have I ever held an FFL. Never said I did.
3. Simply stated, if I can get decent groups from my R1's overly heavy trigger, then - all other factors being equal, ringo should be able to do the same. Yet, he places all of the blame on the trigger pull.
Now that all that's out of the way, let me review your little 1,2,3 of accuarcy.
Assuming you assign an equal measure of importance to each item on the list, I will agree that all three are parts of a very complex accuracy formula. But you've left out so much that it calls into question your own credentials.
Are you really a doctor, or do you just play one on the forums?
Consistency on the parts behind the buttplate (grey matter, nerves, skin, blood, and bones) is essential.
On the mechanical end of things....
Barrel harmonics can play a huge role in sporter weight barrels. Having the bullet exit the barrel at the same point in the barrel's movement on each shot is critical. Having the bullet exit the barrel when it's in the center of it's ramge of movement each time is bliss.
Sporter weight barrels can be tricky. Some do best with a free-floating barrel, while others perform with slight, consistent presssure applied just forward of the recoil lug. Most semi-auto hunting rifles do not have barrels that can be floated, so it's important that the physical connections which fasten the barrel, action, and stock together are of good quality and minimize their succeptibility to variances due to temperature changes, vibrations, etc.
Selecting the proper bullet length and weight for the given barrel length and rate of twist is a big step towards accuracy.
I could go on and on about primers, bc's, rifling, head space, handloading, optics, humidity, crosswinds, thermals, burn rates, case capacities, canting, etc, etc., but I'd be boring a man of your vast lnowledge.
The simple fact is that ringo has placed 100% of the blame for his large groups on trigger pull, but that is not an accurate whole picture of what's going on.
Yeah, he could have a lemon, but with moronic statements such as the one he made above, it's easy to assume that he doesn't know a lemon from a peach.
[ 09-01-2005, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: Dr-Burns ]
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In the first place, if you believed that the cost of the rilfe is directly attributable to its accuracy, regardless of design, build, and intended pupose, then you are severely ignorant of rifle design and function.Originally posted by Dr-Burns:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by tucker301:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DreamHuntz:
I would never have spent this kind of money on a rifle that will not shoot anywhere as accurate as a $379 remington model 700 bolt action in the same caliber.
My rifle has been impossible to sight-in. I attribute this to the trigger pull issue.
Secondly, if you are unable to sight in the R1 because of the trigger pull, then you are completely incompetent and should not own a rifle of any make.
[img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]You are probably the most arrogant person that I have ever read a post from...I will invite you to shoot a 6lb trigger against mine any day. Trigger pull is the key to accurate consistant groups. I can see that you like many others, that holding an FFL doesn't make you knowledgable of firearms or abilty to shoot. Ask any shooter what determines accuracy.
1. a good trigger
2. bolt lock up and lock time
3. cartridge chambering and spacing on or off lands </font>[/QUOTE]Tucker301
How does the Benelli television commercial slogan go?I beleive it is something like this...
" "Quality worth the Price"
I say Horse *****s. There seems to be way to much dicussion about the nasty trigger pull /pressue issue. The reason stated on the website is that it is a saftey precaution against lawsuits from consumers accidental shooting themselves.( oh yeah... don't forget to write back when you get out of the hospital) These guns should be recalled by Benelli.
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