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JackTheRipper
11-19-2009, 09:19 PM
just picked up a 26" Vinci! it's sooo sweeeeeeeeet!
haven't shot it yet, but I am tomorrow ;-)...
I'll let yall know how it goes !!!
Jack
Novaking
11-19-2009, 09:35 PM
just picked up a 26" Vinci! it's sooo sweeeeeeeeet!
haven't shot it yet, but I am tomorrow ;-)...
I'll let yall know how it goes !!!
Jack
Its not true until we see pictures.:D
JackTheRipper
11-19-2009, 09:43 PM
how about a copy of the expensive ass receipt! that's more proof! hahaha
btw, I bought a better sight for it, one of those lazer bright sights, it had a picture of Tom Knapp on it... anyways, it's freakin adhesive (my cousin bought a different brand and his is magnetic, and his is much much much brighter)
anyways, 20 bucks down the drain...
JackTheRipper
11-19-2009, 09:49 PM
oh yea, forgot to mention (I noticed this before I bought it)
there is a chip in the camo, on the stock under the barrel... it's not really noticeable, but I did want to exchange it for a different gun, but they didn't have one...
I'll post some pics up so yall can give your opinions... some people might think I'm very nit picky, but damn, I just spent 1400 on a firearm, I want it to be perfect!
Novaking
11-19-2009, 10:03 PM
how about a copy of the expensive ass receipt! that's more proof! hahaha
btw, I bought a better sight for it, one of those lazer bright sights, it had a picture of Tom Knapp on it... anyways, it's freakin adhesive (my cousin bought a different brand and his is magnetic, and his is much much much brighter)
anyways, 20 bucks down the drain...
I have one of those ez hit optics on my O/U. Its a great sight.
hognutz
11-19-2009, 10:45 PM
I have an Easy Hit on my Vinci and an SBE ll. Great sight. you will love it.
yenrec
11-19-2009, 11:03 PM
i love my vinci! i finally got 4 ducks my first 2 times out with it. 1 the first time and 3 yesterday. it beats the crap out of my rem 11-87!
JackTheRipper
11-20-2009, 12:59 AM
I bought a shotgun site made by Champion, it's called the easthit shotgun sight... it's red and 3.0mm x 2.75"... let me tell you what... I guess i'm doing something wrong, because i'm shocked someone can make such a piece of crap... I hate this damn thing...
seriously... biggest piece of **** I've ever bought...
my cousin bought a browning hi viz for his SBE II that was magnetic (unlike this adhesive one) and his is SUPER bright...
man I'm disappointed...
tucker301
11-20-2009, 08:17 AM
What are the advantages of having such a bright sight on a shotgun?
It seems to me that unless there's an eye dominance issue or POI issue, you would want the front sight to be unobtrusive and benign, so that you can shoot more instinctively.
Novaking
11-20-2009, 08:35 AM
What are the advantages of having such a bright sight on a shotgun?
It seems to me that unless there's an eye dominance issue or POI issue, you would want the front sight to be unobtrusive and benign, so that you can shoot more instinctively.
Thats why I have one on my O/U. It doesn't fit me and this helps me keep my head down.
tucker301
11-20-2009, 08:44 AM
Thats why I have one on my O/U. It doesn't fit me and this helps me keep my head down.
Precisely what the sight is designed to do.
But to buy one and mount it on a brand new gun, without regard for testing under the factory setup, is ill-advised. One could easily do more harm than good.
JackTheRipper
11-20-2009, 09:23 PM
alright guys, took the Vinci out today and shot about 50 clay pigeons.
my cousin was with me and he was shooting his brand new SBE II...
He didn't run any high brass through it, and his shotgun jammed repetitively... He was super pissed, but I told him not to be, that he had to break it in...
Let me tell ya what guys... In my honest, unbiased opinion, there isn't any comparison... The Vinci blows the SBE II out of the damn water. I am not even joking. It swings better, handles better, feels better, **** I even say shoots better (okay maybe that last one is biased ;-P....)
they are both very fine shotguns, no doubt... my cousin basically admitted he shoulda got the Vinci... and something weird, even the CAMO looks brighter/richer, he said mine looked HD compared to his dull looking camo...
just my 2 cents gentlemen. i'm pretty freakin happy right now! can't wait to shoot some ducks!
JackTheRipper
11-20-2009, 09:35 PM
one more question, should I clean the barrel? I put about 50 shells through it...
thanks,
Jack
slugmeister
11-20-2009, 09:46 PM
I love my fiber optic bead on my nova. Its all a personal preferance thing but I personally find the fiber optic bead to be better than a metal bead, in basically all ways. Its 1 downfall is you cant put magnetic sights over it. But I use a red dot for turkey hunting so it doesnt matter to me
slugmeister
11-20-2009, 09:48 PM
one more question, should I clean the barrel? I put about 50 shells through it...
thanks,
Jack
Shot, clean it every time, slugs, clean it after the seasons over. If you clean it, the friction wont be the same and the slug will hit in a different place, shot, it doesnt matter.
JackTheRipper
11-20-2009, 11:54 PM
okay I made the mistake of trying to clean my barrel, I had to take the action out of the barrel, man it sucked, I couldn't get it all the way out, so I gave it up, and then I coudln't get it back in because of this little red plastic thing... phew... finally had to force it back in by using the stock to push it on...
jonesbb630
11-21-2009, 12:22 AM
alright guys, took the Vinci out today and shot about 50 clay pigeons.
my cousin was with me and he was shooting his brand new SBE II...
He didn't run any high brass through it, and his shotgun jammed repetitively... He was super pissed, but I told him not to be, that he had to break it in...
Let me tell ya what guys... In my honest, unbiased opinion, there isn't any comparison... The Vinci blows the SBE II out of the damn water. I am not even joking. It swings better, handles better, feels better, **** I even say shoots better (okay maybe that last one is biased ;-P....)
they are both very fine shotguns, no doubt... my cousin basically admitted he shoulda got the Vinci... and something weird, even the CAMO looks brighter/richer, he said mine looked HD compared to his dull looking camo...
just my 2 cents gentlemen. i'm pretty freakin happy right now! can't wait to shoot some ducks!
Oh really... My friend has the Vinci and it was the other way around, My SBE II shot flawlessly with 100 clays and his Vinci jamed. He regrets not getting the SBE II. As for the cammo, his Vinci did look a bit brighter but not significantly. Both my friend and I thought the SBE handled better, swung better, aimed better. Go figger. I need to mention that we are both over 6' tall. As for jamming, we lubed the Vinci a bit and made the whole diff in the world.
Bottom line, neither blows one another out of the water. They are both superb shotguns, period...
JackTheRipper
11-21-2009, 01:38 AM
I agree that they are both fine shotguns. I'm 5'11", for me the Vinci just feels better all around, also I'm very glad I got the 26" vs his 28". For me no regrets, 100% confident I prefer the Vinci. To each his own!
slugmeister
11-21-2009, 02:45 AM
you can get a new fiber optic bead at alot of places for around $10, it just screws in.
yenrec
11-21-2009, 12:39 PM
jack, check in the back of your manual, it may give you the part number to order, heck if you contacted benelli since it hasnt even been a week they may send you another sight for free... its worth a shot!
AJ_SD
11-21-2009, 01:10 PM
Hi Jack, I have a Vinci and I was wondering if you pattern tested it yet? If you get a chance, I would like to know your results. I love the gun but I have to be honest with you, I've had some frustrating times with it because it shoot 8" High! You can read my posts about it here http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20340&highlight=vinci+shooting+high
I finally have the thing under control, I put a Cabelas magnetic site on it and it helped lower the POI. Basically Jack, my gun doesn't shoot where you point it, but the fiber optic site helped a lot! Now if I float the target above the sight, it shoots dead nuts on. I do have the thickest shim in the gun so there's nothing else I can do to lower the POI as far as Benelli is concerned. In my opinion a field shotgun should not shoot high like a trap gun, I have a problem with that!
When you pattern test your Vinci, do me a favor, shoot it at around 20 yards with a mod choke and aim right in the center of the target, don't float the target, let me know your results please.
By the way I want to thank "hognutz" once again for helping me out with this POI issue as I've benefited from his pervious frustrations with the Vinci.
yenrec
11-21-2009, 08:33 PM
upland i patterned mine out and it seemed to shoot dead on. I figured out my problem when i was shooting slugs, i wasnt looking down my barrel right. I shot a bucket at 15 yards and blew it in half with some 7 1/2 shot out of my full, then blew a rabbits head clean off from about 15 yards later that night. Somehow i didnt get any pellets in the meat it was pretty exciting bc we got dinner for my buddies grandparents!
AJ_SD
11-21-2009, 11:46 PM
Hi Yenrec, good to hear from you. Just so I have it clear...with target-type ammunition, are you floating the target above the front sight, or are you putting the front sight right on the target?
According to Benelli, the gun is suppose to shoot high and I have a problem with that because all the guns I've owned shoot exactly where I point them and it's hard to adapt, but I am adapting, LOL. What shim do you have in the gun?
yenrec
11-22-2009, 11:22 AM
i was putting my front sight right on target. I learned i needed to basically blot out my front pin with the mid pin to shoot dead on. i have the stock shim in my gun as im not too sure how it will feel if i swap it out. I love the way it fits me now, and im scared my shots will be off if i swapped to a diff shim.
hognutz
11-22-2009, 12:20 PM
i was putting my front sight right on target. I learned i needed to basically blot out my front pin with the mid pin to shoot dead on. i have the stock shim in my gun as im not too sure how it will feel if i swap it out. I love the way it fits me now, and im scared my shots will be off if i swapped to a diff shim.
Shooting it in this fashion will definitely lower the point of impact. That would be hard for me to do in a situation where a quick shot is needed. If it works for you, don't change a thing. Don't fix something that isn't broke.. Glad to hear that you like your new Vinci.. Mike
BlackDogs3
11-22-2009, 01:39 PM
Agreed. I put an Easy Hit SG 3 mm RED-5" Sight on my 20 ga SuperSport. I am also not overly crazy about the sticky tape instillation, but it has held up fine half way through the pheasant season. The sight helps me make sure that I put the gun up correctly when a pheasant flushes. I find myself using the site to readjust my gun position while firing. If I miss the first shot it is usually due to my gun not being put up correctly. Either the stock catches on my vest on the way up to my shoulder or I have my gun up my a** while the boys are working a bird. Tom Knapp uses this sight and he shoots OK.
Shooting high is the European way and Benelli is a European gun. This method of sighting is a tremendous advantage shooting trap, skeet, or birds. Sighting high helps you hit a rising bird. You can actually see your target when you pull the trigger. I learned shotgunning using a Browning A5 and the "high" sighting of a Benelli is a great improvement. If think Benelli shoots high, try a high end trap gun.
AJ_SD
11-22-2009, 02:51 PM
i was putting my front sight right on target. I learned i needed to basically blot out my front pin with the mid pin to shoot dead on. i have the stock shim in my gun as im not too sure how it will feel if i swap it out. I love the way it fits me now, and im scared my shots will be off if i swapped to a diff shim.
Yenrec, I'm glad your technique is working for you! I'll have to agree with hognutz though. On a fast-flushing bird such as a Quail, this just wont work for me. If I'm shooting high taking my time looking at a sitting target at the range, your technique would seem difficult in the field.
I'm beginning to wonder if my Vinci just doesn't fit me right. I'm not a big guy, 5' 11'' 170 lbs. My next step is to see if I can have a machinist make a thicker shim, however I looked closely at the gun and I don't see much room in there for a thicker shim, I guess we'll see.
Blackdog3, in regards to your comments about desiring a high-shooting gun, I don't disagree with you at all, it seems it would be better, however since all my guns have shot exactly where I point them it's taking time for me to adjust. After 30 years of shooting with a gun that shoots exactly where I point it, it's hard to relearn to be honest.
LOL, another frustrating thing is, I use to shoot a pump shotgun before the Vinci and now I can't even go back to shoot that gun anymore because I forget to pump-it for the second shot - it really makes your blood boil in the field, let me tell you!! I'm stuck with this Vinci, LOL.
yenrec
11-22-2009, 04:08 PM
yes it is definately much harder to get myself to aim it correctly, working on it with the clays. I just started hunting this yr and ive really only shot for about a year so its not going to take to long to better myself. In one of my outdoor subscriptions i read an article where it says to take your time, make sure you are sighting right then shoot at the bird. It said you will have a much better ratio if you take your time and aim right rather then do it sloppy. Im working on it and it seems to be working out fine, but im not gonna lie it is hard to break!
JackTheRipper
11-22-2009, 04:33 PM
hey, I'm going to pattern da Vinci tomorrow...
I'll let ya know my results...
I have a friend who works in Benelli's repair dept, she's gonna send me a new bead out tomorrow...
tcandt
11-23-2009, 01:15 AM
My new Vinci only holds 2 shells (2-3/4) in the magazine. The specs say it should be 3 plus 1 in the chamber. Any suggestions or experience similar to this? It is really close to hold 3 but just short. Is there an adjustment to make 3 work?
JackTheRipper
11-23-2009, 01:59 AM
pretty sure you can take the plug out...
hognutz
11-23-2009, 09:30 AM
My new Vinci only holds 2 shells (2-3/4) in the magazine. The specs say it should be 3 plus 1 in the chamber. Any suggestions or experience similar to this? It is really close to hold 3 but just short. Is there an adjustment to make 3 work?
You definitely have the plug (limiter) still in the magazine tube. Read the manual, it will show you how to remove it. Be careful to hold the end cap when you do this because the tension on the spring will cause the spring, cap, and the plug to go flying out. No big deal, pick up the parts and reinstall, minus the plug. By the way, just the insert in the mag, cap comes out. I made the mistake of holding the whole cap and the spring got by me. If not sure, do it inside the house so you are not looking for parts in the grass. Good luck. Mike
AJ_SD
11-23-2009, 01:15 PM
hey, I'm going to pattern da Vinci tomorrow...
I'll let ya know my results...
I have a friend who works in Benelli's repair dept, she's gonna send me a new bead out tomorrow...
Jack, I would love to hear about your pattern tests, let us all know.
tcandt
11-23-2009, 07:16 PM
Got it. I had figure the shop had taken it out. Spring is tricky and easy to get away. Thanks.
JackTheRipper
11-23-2009, 07:39 PM
I didn't get to the range today, probably wed or thurs. I'll let ya know tho...
AJ_SD
11-23-2009, 10:00 PM
I didn't get to the range today, probably wed or thurs. I'll let ya know tho...
NP, very curious as to how your tests go. Make sure you shoot right at the target, don't float it, this is what I'm curious about, want to know how high your gun is shooting and what shim you have in the gun.
I saw a machinist today in regards to making a new shim. I have a few options on how I can go about it, I'll let everyone know where I take this, it's going to take some trial and error though, but it seems like it will be more of a permanent solution :)
I don't know if some of you shoot multiple guns but if one shoots high, and the other shoots dead-nuts, how do you calculate all that in the field? It seems to me anyway that you would want all your hunting guns to shoot the same. You know...if I had all day to shoot my gun I bet I could shot any gun no matter how it was shooting, but I don't have all day, trying to focus on having a fun hunt - that's what I enjoy the most!
JackTheRipper
11-27-2009, 12:15 AM
I patterned yesterday a little bit, I was happy with the pattern
I used the Improved Cylinder choke from Benelli and used 3" black cloud #2s...
however,
I'm a noob to shotguns so I honestly don't know what's a good pattern and what's not...
it looked consistent and the spread was enough to please me... a duck woulda been dead ;-)
how many pellets can a shell, like a 3" black cloud hold?
anyone know?
thanks!
BigAL33
11-27-2009, 03:51 PM
Get any ducks with it yet?
JackTheRipper
11-27-2009, 05:40 PM
**** no :-(
been 2 times:
first time, saw a lot of ducks, and heard a **** of a lot of them before the sun rose. However, my cousin got trigger happy and shot way too early = no ducks
secondly, went to a different area where you think there would be tons of ducks, didn't see 1 damn duck... just weren't in the right spot, we did however hear tons of shotgun blasts from afar... :-(
going for the 3rd time tomorrow, wish me luck...!
AJ_SD
11-30-2009, 11:30 PM
Was the pattern high, or did the gun shoot where you pointed it? It would have been a better test with the mod or full choke.
AJ_SD
11-30-2009, 11:36 PM
I patterned yesterday a little bit, I was happy with the pattern
I used the Improved Cylinder choke from Benelli and used 3" black cloud #2s...
however,
I'm a noob to shotguns so I honestly don't know what's a good pattern and what's not...
it looked consistent and the spread was enough to please me... a duck woulda been dead ;-)
how many pellets can a shell, like a 3" black cloud hold?
anyone know?
thanks!
Hey, forgot to ask, how far away was your target? 20 yards, 25 yards?
JackTheRipper
12-01-2009, 02:15 AM
it pretty much hit exactly where I aimed...
can't complain...
the target was about 30 yards maybe...
AJ_SD
12-01-2009, 03:30 AM
it pretty much hit exactly where I aimed...
can't complain...
the target was about 30 yards maybe...
Yeah this is all starting to make me wonder if I'm doing something wrong as far as aiming the gun. I had my friend shoot it and it was like a copy and paste of what my shot looked like - too high! Are you using both beads when you aim, what are you doing with the mid-bead? Maybe I'm not doing something right... talk to me.
JackTheRipper
12-01-2009, 03:49 AM
what kinda ammo are you shooting again? have you tried different chokes?
maybe invest in a good after market choke...
yenrec
12-01-2009, 01:40 PM
upland i had to put my mid bead in the center of the red front sight for my gun to shoot slugs straight. when i got myself to aim it like that for skeet it was dead on. give that a try and see how it works out
AJ_SD
12-01-2009, 09:16 PM
upland i had to put my mid bead in the center of the red front sight for my gun to shoot slugs straight. when i got myself to aim it like that for skeet it was dead on. give that a try and see how it works out
Hmmm, ok I will try that, that makes sense. My previous gun didn't have a mid-bead and to be honest I don't really use it on the Vinci. I'm not sure how I would do all that when I need to get a real quick shot off at a quail for instance. I will try it and let you know boss, thanks for the advice.
How are you doing with your gun, are you killing birds?
yenrec
12-02-2009, 12:20 PM
yes sir, its a killing machine if i keep my posture right. i was always really good a instinctive shooting my old remington, but decided now that i have a top of the line gun i should learn how to shoot it right, so as long as i take my time, make sure i line up the beads right i have no troubles. An article i read said take your time setting up and aiming right, and you will have a much better kill ratio. You will have a much better chance taking your time, then rushing and not aiming right or pulling the shot.
VINCIshooter
12-06-2009, 10:51 PM
now this may be just me but ive found out with hunting if i dont use the sights and this sounds dumb but if i shoulder the gun and look at the bird itll hit if i use my sight it can be a gamble but with trap i have to use my sight i dont know why its different but it is haha,
nsprengN1
12-07-2009, 06:08 PM
Want one of these bad :D
AJ_SD
12-07-2009, 09:28 PM
yes sir, its a killing machine if i keep my posture right. i was always really good a instinctive shooting my old remington, but decided now that i have a top of the line gun i should learn how to shoot it right, so as long as i take my time, make sure i line up the beads right i have no troubles. An article i read said take your time setting up and aiming right, and you will have a much better kill ratio. You will have a much better chance taking your time, then rushing and not aiming right or pulling the shot.
Good stuff! Personally I believe when your shotgun shooting is instinctive, sort of like an extension of your arm, it's best!
I'm happy to tell you that I figured this Vinci out, I added more shim to the existing shim and now it shoots exactly where I point the SOB.
I took it Dove hunting on Friday and it's feeling really good. I now have a 50/50 pattern. After 3+ months of messing with this damn thing I'm finally happy, I was seriously going to send this gun back, but now I think I got it dialed-in.
For shooters that are accustomed to "floating the target" the Vinci might be ok, but it's still my personal opinion that a field gun should shoot dead-nuts on - and NOT like a trap gun! I didn't see any trap shooting in the Vinci promo ads, did you? Other than the POI issue, I love the gun in every way, it's a very solid piece of engineering in my opinion.
By the way, your comment in regards to taking your time and setting up for the shot, I couldn't agree more. Nothing in general ever comes out right, even in life when you rush things! LOL. I think the more you shoot, the more relaxed you become. Before I went to shoot the Dove, I hung the pattern test of my Vinci up in my office, just to remind me how the gun is shooting straight and how I have this wonderful pattern. Guess what - it worked in the field!
hognutz
12-07-2009, 09:34 PM
Glad you finally got it where you want it. I agree with your POI issues. Good luck with the making of the new shim. Mike
Road Warroir
12-09-2009, 02:59 PM
Upland-SD and Hognutz I've read your posts with great interest. I too seem to be hitting high with my Vinci. I've noticed it on the game I've been hunting and my buddy watched my patterns striking high on a couple running rabbits the other day. I shoot quite a bit in the off season and my other guns are pretty well fitted to me, so I'm pretty sure I'm going through what you guys have with the Vinci. (love the gun BTW)
I did go to the lowest shim, but havent shot it since. I'm also going to try he Easy Hit based on your comments, and I've always wanted to mess with one anyway. WTH- a high tech shotgun seems like the place for a high tech sight, right? :)
Any comments on the green vs. orange Easy Hit?
Road Warroir
12-09-2009, 03:27 PM
Great start, I noticed I spelled "Warrior" wrong when I registered. DUH! :o
Road Warroir
12-09-2009, 04:27 PM
One more quickie.
Are you using the 5" long Easy Hit or the shorter one?
hognutz
12-09-2009, 04:42 PM
I went with the orange, 5'' Easy hit. One quick bit of advice. Put the Easy Hit on the rib, and then tape it there with some black electrical tape. Then shoot the gun. If it works for you, then glue it on as directed. the sight won't be wrecked if you don't like it. With the thickest shim and the addition of the Easy Hit, your POI will be lowered. Make sure that you buy the 3mm sight, not the 2.5mm. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. Also,I believe that you can edit the Warrior thing...Mike
hognutz
12-09-2009, 04:46 PM
Actually, it is a red sight, not orange.
Road Warroir
12-09-2009, 05:00 PM
Thanks!
I noticed on the EasyHit website they also make a 3.5 mm version, but I have not seen that one for sale anywhere. 3.5 mm might be getting pretty massive.
I'll definitely tape it on and try it before I use the supplied adhesive tape.
That lowest shim for the Vinci is about as low as I can go without sinking too far below the plane of the rib. I think it will all work out OK. Thanks again.
hognutz
12-09-2009, 07:11 PM
I have not seen the 3.5mm. If you buy the 3mm and need a little more, you always have the option to go to the bigger one. Good luck...
AJ_SD
12-09-2009, 07:17 PM
Upland-SD and Hognutz I've read your posts with great interest. I too seem to be hitting high with my Vinci. I've noticed it on the game I've been hunting and my buddy watched my patterns striking high on a couple running rabbits the other day. I shoot quite a bit in the off season and my other guns are pretty well fitted to me, so I'm pretty sure I'm going through what you guys have with the Vinci. (love the gun BTW)
I did go to the lowest shim, but havent shot it since. I'm also going to try he Easy Hit based on your comments, and I've always wanted to mess with one anyway. WTH- a high tech shotgun seems like the place for a high tech sight, right? :)
Any comments on the green vs. orange Easy Hit?
Road Warrior, you've come the right place my friend! Between myself and hognutz, you might lick this problem. At one point I almost tossed the Vinci into one of these irrigation canals in El Centro, and I'm not kidding with ya!
What you need to do is go the range and shoot your Vinci at a pattern board or a relatively large paper target at 21 yards with the
modified choke. If you want to email me the results I bet I can help you out, I've been messing with this POI problem for three months, I've already been there.
Just so you know, the Vinci is designed to shoot high so according to Benelli there's nothing wrong with the gun, but that doesn't mean the gun will work for you unless you fix this problem. When you shoot your target, point right at the bulleye, don't float the target above the bead (unless that's what you are accustomed to) All of my previous guns shoot exactly where I point them, not sure what you're accustomed to.
The shim you want in there is the "CDX", this is the thickest one and will lower your POI the most. If the shim and the easyhit don't do enough for you, let us know, you still have 2-3 more options that I know about.
By the way... for me the best patterning shotgun shells are the Fiocchi. The Winchester Super X Game Loads were ok, stay away from the Remington Dove and Quail field loads, they don't pattern consistently. Always shoot the same shotgun shell for your POI tests. Later you can do your own testing of shells, right now you're looking for consistency.
Hope to hear more, lets us know!
Road Warroir
12-09-2009, 07:53 PM
Upland-SD, last night I put the CDX shim in place and I noticed it lowered the comb nicely without going too low. Between the Vinci patterning a little high, and myself probably "peeking" a little I hope the Easy Hit helps me to keep my head down and lower the POI. I'm shooting some fairly stout ammo at the late season roosters, and I know i tend to lift my head a little with these heavy loads.
My other guns are all pretty flat shooters, and I have been known to take a rasp to pricey SxS's that were stocked too high, so gun modifications are no big deal to me. A gun is a tool, and they have to be dialed in to be worth carrying.
So...I'm going to try the 5" (3 mm) red Easy Hit and see how I like it. I know that's 2 variables at once, but I read about these a few years ago and wanted to try one at some point anyway. I doubt if I'll put Easy Hits on my fine SxS's, but the Vinci's looks seem to upset some people, so this should really make them mutter! Then i'll kick their butts shooting while I'm at it! :p
AJ_SD
12-09-2009, 09:00 PM
Upland-SD, last night I put the CDX shim in place and I noticed it lowered the comb nicely without going too low. Between the Vinci patterning a little high, and myself probably "peeking" a little I hope the Easy Hit helps me to keep my head down and lower the POI. I'm shooting some fairly stout ammo at the late season roosters, and I know i tend to lift my head a little with these heavy loads.
My other guns are all pretty flat shooters, and I have been known to take a rasp to pricey SxS's that were stocked too high, so gun modifications are no big deal to me. A gun is a tool, and they have to be dialed in to be worth carrying.
So...I'm going to try the 5" (3 mm) red Easy Hit and see how I like it. I know that's 2 variables at once, but I read about these a few years ago and wanted to try one at some point anyway. I doubt if I'll put Easy Hits on my fine SxS's, but the Vinci's looks seem to upset some people, so this should really make them mutter! Then i'll kick their butts shooting while I'm at it! :p
Make sure you get to a target or patterning board, it's going to save you a lot of possible frustration time with the gun!
I know what you mean about peeking over the sights or barrel to watch that bird fall, we've all done it and missed the shot! Remember though, and I think hognutz will agree, this Vinci needs to shoot as instinctual as possible, any special aiming or lining up of beads to get it to shoot straight is going to be really hard to do when a quail launches like a missile.
Last Friday I had my first instinctual shot with the Vinci! This dove popped-up out of this overgrown farmers field, I got him at 25 yards but I never used the sights, I just swung the barrel over there and shot and he dropped. After that happened, I finally felt like I can work this this gun, especially since I have it shooting dead-nuts now!
Oh, forgot to mention... I like the looks of the gun to be honest with you, I think it's very forward thinking and the engineering of it is very impressive. You know we all like the guns with the beautiful wood that look like expensive home furniture, but it just sounds like your friends are traditionalists that's all. Plenty of guns out there that have nice wood stocks, etc, that's no challenge. Personally I don't even like camo guns, but I would buy one if the hunt required it!
malakaz
01-28-2010, 07:11 PM
has anyone taken out or now how to take our the plug for the vinci? I see in the manual how to take the magazine tube out with the allen wrench but all that seems to be there is the spring. Is the plug there as well?
hognutz
01-28-2010, 09:52 PM
Yes it is. Make sure you hold your hand over the end because the spring and end will fly off.
BigAL33
02-12-2010, 12:35 PM
Want one of these bad :D
Now's a good time to buy. That way you'll have plenty of time to practice before Sept. 1st!
ToTXfire
02-20-2010, 02:50 AM
After dumping $1400 on a gem of a scatter gun like the Vinci, why not get a spead bead and be done with it?
I put one on a Stoeger P350 because shells aren't cheap, I'm only 5'8" and the gun is a bit big (LOP wise anyhow) and, I got sick of cripples and misses.
I'm debating how I should go about knocking 3/4 of an inch off this thing so I can be a bit more at ease with it. If I didn't love my Model 11 Rem so much I'd still be draggin it out into the duck marsh.
facepaint
02-22-2010, 12:14 AM
Do any of you use a red dot for everything or just a factory setup never heard of shims what the .... are they. Raised a bowhunter only. This is alot more complicated than I thought. I am glad you guys know what your doin so I can learn a thing or two or three or four ect... :D
M2000 OWNER
03-03-2010, 09:40 PM
Check to see if there is a plug in the magizine.
hattles
03-13-2010, 01:42 AM
After dumping $1400 on a gem of a scatter gun like the Vinci, why not get a spead bead and be done with it?
I put one on a Stoeger P350 because shells aren't cheap, I'm only 5'8" and the gun is a bit big (LOP wise anyhow) and, I got sick of cripples and misses.
I'm debating how I should go about knocking 3/4 of an inch off this thing so I can be a bit more at ease with it. If I didn't love my Model 11 Rem so much I'd still be draggin it out into the duck marsh.
Just an FYI on your LOP. I'm 5'8" also and prefer a 13-3/4"LOP. I purchased the 13.5" RH-LOP gel pad for the SBEII and put in the C shim and it fits me perfect. The gel pad was expensive though. I bought minefrom Brownells for $116 and then discovered my local Benelli dealer had them for $95.
malakaz
03-20-2010, 09:18 AM
Anyone put a spead beat or a red dot sight on the vinci for say turkey?? which one fits the vinci well?
hognutz
03-20-2010, 09:40 AM
I have an Aimpoint on mine. It works great, and the batteries last for years, not days. A lot of the guys are using the Burris set-ups. They are Speed Beads and Fast Fire's, I think. I see a fair amount of Bushnell's and Tru Glo's also.I don't know the particulars of any of these except the Aimpoint. Do your homework, and good luck with your decision..Mike
Road Warroir
04-09-2010, 08:51 AM
Finally took my Vinci out and shot three boxes of STS 1 1/8 oz @ 1300 fps. I just hammered the clays and everything seems to be "dead nuts" and dialed in. I have the lowest shim in place and I did put on the 3mm Easyhit sight.
These loads do rock you a bit even in the Vinci, but I want to break in the gun with stouter loads like the manual suggested. However, I do want to shoot lighter loads for future clay shooting.
Quick question: Will the Vinci cycle 1 oz @ 1200 fps reliably?
hognutz
04-09-2010, 10:43 AM
You should have no problem shooting the 1 oz. loads. I would shoot a couple of boxes of heavier loads first, just to loosen her up a bit. Make sure you keep the bolt and rails lubed. Good luck with the new gun..Mike
outdoorpursuit
04-11-2010, 07:19 AM
Shot a couple of boxes of 1oz loads through the Vinci today....no problems at all...have a couple of boxes of field read to go next..
hattles
04-12-2010, 02:07 AM
My Vinci cycled the 1oz loads like candy. I've shot 15 rds of skeet without a hiccup.
Road Warroir
04-13-2010, 09:15 PM
My Vinci cycled the 1oz loads like candy. I've shot 15 rds of skeet without a hiccup.
Hattles, what 1 oz loads are you shooting?
BigAL33
04-14-2010, 05:18 PM
I like the B&P F2 Mach 1 oz #8 loads for doves with an IC or LM choke. These loads work great in my Vinci.
hattles
04-26-2010, 12:58 AM
Hattles, what 1 oz loads are you shooting?
I've been shooting Fiochi spreader loads, max dram 1oz. and also Federal(Blue Box) max dram 1oz game loads.
No problems and I buy the Federals from Wal Mart @ $4.67/box.
yessina430
04-27-2010, 02:54 AM
Is it true?? Is there anynone can tell me
gomer
05-02-2010, 07:11 PM
My vinci does not have any trouble cycling any loads but the trigger pull is way too short is there anyway to lengthen in and stay with the gel pads?
Uncle Russ
05-05-2010, 01:27 AM
Agreed. I put an Easy Hit SG 3 mm RED-5" Sight on my 20 ga SuperSport. I am also not overly crazy about the sticky tape instillation, but it has held up fine half way through the pheasant season. The sight helps me make sure that I put the gun up correctly when a pheasant flushes. I find myself using the site to readjust my gun position while firing. If I miss the first shot it is usually due to my gun not being put up correctly. Either the stock catches on my vest on the way up to my shoulder or I have my gun up my a** while the boys are working a bird. Tom Knapp uses this sight and he shoots OK.
Shooting high is the European way and Benelli is a European gun. This method of sighting is a tremendous advantage shooting trap, skeet, or birds. Sighting high helps you hit a rising bird. You can actually see your target when you pull the trigger. I learned shotgunning using a Browning A5 and the "high" sighting of a Benelli is a great improvement. If think Benelli shoots high, try a high end trap gun.
A properly-fit shotgun will shoot 60% of the pattern above the POI, and 40% below. The best sight picture has the bird floating just above the barrel. And, most patterning is done at 40yds, not 20, and not less than 30yds. Just some suggestions - - - a lot of this has to do with gun mount, which goes back to gun fit as well.
Uncle Russ
05-05-2010, 01:28 AM
Agreed. I put an Easy Hit SG 3 mm RED-5" Sight on my 20 ga SuperSport. I am also not overly crazy about the sticky tape instillation, but it has held up fine half way through the pheasant season. The sight helps me make sure that I put the gun up correctly when a pheasant flushes. I find myself using the site to readjust my gun position while firing. If I miss the first shot it is usually due to my gun not being put up correctly. Either the stock catches on my vest on the way up to my shoulder or I have my gun up my a** while the boys are working a bird. Tom Knapp uses this sight and he shoots OK.
Shooting high is the European way and Benelli is a European gun. This method of sighting is a tremendous advantage shooting trap, skeet, or birds. Sighting high helps you hit a rising bird. You can actually see your target when you pull the trigger. I learned shotgunning using a Browning A5 and the "high" sighting of a Benelli is a great improvement. If think Benelli shoots high, try a high end trap gun.
A properly-fit shotgun will shoot 60% of the pattern above the POI, and 40% below. The best sight picture has the bird floating just above the barrel. And, most patterning is done at 40yds, not 20, and not less than 30yds. Just some suggestions - - - a lot of this has to do with gun mount, which goes back to gun fit as well.
breda
05-13-2010, 06:42 AM
hello,
Any ideas who brings Breda shotguns in US? Looking to buy the new grizzly one.Thsnk you.
Richwineal
05-30-2010, 11:31 PM
The Vinci is by far the smoothest shotgun I have tried. I just bought my first 28 inch the other day. Have fun with it.
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