.45 handlosd recipe

[Ken Prather]

1. Anyone have a sweet load recipe for .45? The idea is to approximate a factory load, but if it was a teeny bit hotter---but still safely within the pressure ranges for this gun... I am new to handloading, but my neighbor has the whole set up and has offered to handload for me...

2. Also, any recipes for the Barnes all copper bullet in .45? I need to make up a dozen of those, so I can carry this sidearm in the woods during deer season or as a back up for hogs... I live and hunt in the CA lead ban Condor zone...

thnx and best to ya!

Ken

[tyson129]

1. Anyone have a sweet load recipe for .45? The idea is to approximate a factory load, but if it was a teeny bit hotter---but still safely within the pressure ranges for this gun... I am new to handloading, but my neighbor has the whole set up and has offered to handload for me...

2. Also, any recipes for the Barnes all copper bullet in .45? I need to make up a dozen of those, so I can carry this sidearm in the woods during deer season or as a back up for hogs... I live and hunt in the CA lead ban Condor zone...

thnx and best to ya!

Ken

Follow your Reloading Manuals exactly, starting with at least -10% below maximum loads and work your way up to a safe load. You will benefit mostly from accuracy and satisfaction of making your own ammo with reloading as you probably know unless you are making wildcat rounds (like the .257 Roberts Ackley Improved).
I know you are looking for a recipe, so you may want to be a little more specific with the exact projectile you have in mind for the first question, casings, powder, and type of .45 ammo like ACP, GAP, etc. Also if you could tell us the gun you are using, model and company. You may get a better response that way.
Best of luck

[Ken Prather]

Caliber: .45 long colt
Gun: Uberti 1873 Cattlemans with a 5" barrel

sorry!

[tyson129]

I really think you should look at your reloading manual before taking a recipe from someone off of here. I have thought about this over the last couple of days and its just too dangerous for you to trust a recipe given to you from someone off the internet, especially where you are new to reloading. Please be safe and have a lot of fun. There is a lot of reward in reloading, but safety is always first and foremost no matter what aspect of guns you are talking about.
Cheers

[The Cold Lake Kid]

Another here for getting the information you seek from a good reloading manual.
That said, I have had great results using Trail Boss. It's a nice bulky powder, looking like tiny washers.
I use the same charge in my .45Colt SAA's as well as my 1866 Yellow Boy. At CAS ranges, the performance differences, from firearm to firearm, are minor.
In my .45-70 1885 Hiwall, I use Trail Boss topped with dacron filler to keep the powder on the primer and ensure even ignition.

[nsprengN1]

Everyone be careful in here. I have seen bad ju-ju w/ ill conceived hand-loads.

[jtg452]

I don't want it to sound like we're dogpilin' on you but you really need to get some reloading manual(s) (I like havin' more'n one on hand so I can cross reference 'cause not all load combinations are gonna be listed in any one manual) and do some load development. What shoots well in my gun may not work the best in yours. There's too many slight variances in chamber, bore and bullets to take into account.

Find the bullet and powder you wanna use in a manual and work up some small lots of ammo (5 or 10 rounds per works well) at 1/10th grain intervals within the published range. Use the same primers, bullets and cases with the same crimp and OAL so all that's different is the powder charge. Head to the range, shoot them and find the load that best meets what you are lookin' for (accuracy, recoil, velocity or whatever). Take it slow and make sure that the only variable you are testin' is the powder charge and you'll find what you are lookin' for. When you're done, you'll have confidence in that load doin' what you intended because YOU built it that way. http://sassnet.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[maliveline]

hey I have a question. I have a uberti 1858 remington and its made from stainless steel and I have a conversion cylinder. I'm a skilled reloader and I have everything to make multiple calibers of ammunition. my question is will a stainless steel 1858 remington hold up to the pressures you get from using H110 smokeless powder? what if I use small loads? I really want to push my gun to the limits and achieve maximum velocity. I know stainless steel is a very strong material but I really have no idea how these guns are manufactured and what type of stainless steel they are using. Has anyone ever seen one of these guns blow up from using modern ammunition? I've read elsewhere on the internet that its not as dangerous as the retailers claim it to be.

-mal

[jtg452]

hey I have a question. I have a uberti 1858 remington and its made from stainless steel and I have a conversion cylinder. I'm a skilled reloader and I have everything to make multiple calibers of ammunition. my question is will a stainless steel 1858 remington hold up to the pressures you get from using H110 smokeless powder? what if I use small loads? I really want to push my gun to the limits and achieve maximum velocity. I know stainless steel is a very strong material but I really have no idea how these guns are manufactured and what type of stainless steel they are using. Has anyone ever seen one of these guns blow up from using modern ammunition? I've read elsewhere on the internet that its not as dangerous as the retailers claim it to be.

-mal
If you want to run your hand loads at the upper limit, you need a LOT more gun than a '58 Remmy replica with a conversion cylinder. If you want to hot rod the .45 Colt, you need to spend the money to get one of the old, big frame Ruger Vaqueros or Blackhawks. Not one of the current manufactured ones, they are Colt SAA size and not rated for hot loads. If you want to push even further, a 5 shot conversion would be called for or you could just buy a .454 Caskull and get it over with.

You own a Cap and Ball replica, treat it as such (unless you are fond of the idea of blowing it up and getting called 'Stumpy' for more than one reason). As for what the conversion cylinder will stand up to, check with the folks that made it. They know more about it than we would.

[maliveline]

fair enough, cowboy loads it is