View Full Version : Field Test - Federal Flight Control with Multiple Chokes
Mike Grasso
02-14-2009, 02:17 PM
I recently had the pleasure to test Federal 12g 00buck Flight Control Ammo with the standard Benelli (lll) Mod Choke and three new chokes from Mark (GTPSC) at BlackBore.
If you have a few minutes, follow me through the following photos...
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Xf43HmUTwP0/SZcNgwdCqFI/AAAAAAAAATY/gYvsq8QHxWc/s800/DSC_0014.JPG
The BlackBore choke is designed to slow the wadding down and keep it from interfering with the flight path of the shot.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Xf43HmUTwP0/SZcNjMRkzgI/AAAAAAAAATo/4BANHSgbrHU/s800/DSC_0016.JPG%22%20
You can see that the BlackBore choke extends past the muzzle and the proprietary cuts that inhibit wad movement.
Mike Grasso
02-14-2009, 02:18 PM
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Xf43HmUTwP0/SZcNZmQKDzI/AAAAAAAAASs/6bUdt3v68HQ/s800/DSC_0009.JPG%22%20
In the above photo I fired a "Control Group".
The Center Mass Section of the target is 5.5" wide X 7.5" long.
The shots were made off hand from three distances.
8 Yards - The extreme distance for a room in your house.
16 Yards - Room to Room distance.
24 Yards - Possibly the largest distance in your home.
The Nine Pellet Federal did quite well out of the standard Benelli choke (lll Mod).
8 Yard - 2" group
16 Yard - 4.5" group
24 Yards - 7.5' group
Do not expect anything close to this without Flight Control ammunition!!!
In the following three photos I tested the BlackBore Chokes.
Upper Left is (llll) Improved Cylinder
Center is (lll) Modified
Lower Right is (l) Full
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Xf43HmUTwP0/SZcNdiUaACI/AAAAAAAAAS8/weAyEdKWUJ0/s800/DSC_0010.JPG%22%20
Easily seen are some great groupings by all the chokes.
Mike Grasso
02-14-2009, 02:18 PM
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Xf43HmUTwP0/SZcNel2T73I/AAAAAAAAATI/hBrf_ALzAnA/s800/DSC_0011.JPG
At 16 Yards we see a Flyer in the IC and the Full which skews the results but must be reported. The Mod holds firm. I waited to see if this would happen again at 24 yards.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Xf43HmUTwP0/SZcNf_cwcII/AAAAAAAAATQ/SISFace71nc/s800/DSC_0012.JPG
As you could see in this last photo both the IC and Full had flyer's, repeated tests brought them out 70% of the time. The Mod stayed extremely consistent.
The end result was that the BlackBore choke had consistently tighter groups then the Benelli choke.
I would have to give this result to the wad inhibitor Mark has come up with.
Thanks all for reading and I look forward to the following discussion.
And again,
DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING CLOSE TO THIS GROUPING WITHOUT FLIGHT CONTROL...
Mike
M1014
02-14-2009, 03:01 PM
thanks alot for the 12 ga ammo results,,I bought a case of those flite controls last year,,read in some other tests that they're the best,,your report confirms it,,good hurricane ammo.
klw67
02-14-2009, 04:37 PM
Where can you buy these chokes and how much are they. Thier website offers little real world info.
Thanks,
Kevin
Mike Grasso
02-14-2009, 06:08 PM
Where can you buy these chokes and how much are they. Thier website offers little real world info.
Thanks,
Kevin
Mark (GTPSC / BlackBore) is a Member here, you can PM him for more info.
Mike
Unobtanium
02-15-2009, 12:55 AM
You kinda make me wish I still had my M4. My M16A4 clone is still on back-order.
Duggan
02-15-2009, 03:58 AM
I'm glad to be sitting on a few hundred rounds of the hottest flite control 9 pellet 00 offered by federal tactial.
Mike Grasso
02-15-2009, 02:15 PM
You kinda make me wish I still had my M4. My M16A4 clone is still on back-order.
Maybe this will tide you over for a few weeks........
Mg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Xf43HmUTwP0/SZhktO1XF9I/AAAAAAAAAUs/A7yhBvgrIOg/s800/DSC_0013.JPG
mike4
03-02-2009, 11:39 PM
nice set up for sure. you know something i don't? expecting trouble? seriously , nice drawage. glad i bought a couple hundred of those fl con feds to. gonna test some out. using up a bunch of le hornady lately.
Mike Grasso
03-03-2009, 11:46 AM
That's just my G-Ride, got to have the tools to perform your job.
Mg
Novaking
03-03-2009, 03:16 PM
That's just my G-Ride, got to have the tools to perform your job.
Mg
Lucky *******:D
Duggan
03-03-2009, 03:58 PM
That's just my G-Ride, got to have the tools to perform your job.
Mg
Hmmm ... what job would that be?
tucker301
03-03-2009, 04:45 PM
Hmmm ... what job would that be?
Duggan,
A cybersleuth you are not.
Just go to his website. It's all there. ;)
Mike Grasso
03-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Hmmm ... what job would that be?
Duggan,
I'm an Operator / Supervisor assigned to a Federal Task Force (ViCAT) that surveils and apprehends Violent Multiple Offenders - (Serial) - Murders, Robberies and Rapists.
Mike
MontefeltroPro
03-03-2009, 05:58 PM
Duggan,
I'm an Operator / Supervisor assigned to a Federal Task Force (ViCAT) that surveils and apprehends Violent Multiple Offenders - (Serial) - Murders, Robberies and Rapists.
Mike
Be careful out there. Gonna' put you on my prayer list asking for your safety. I'm not some kind of religious freak but DO know which end is up. Take care.
Mike Grasso
03-03-2009, 11:33 PM
Be careful out there. Gonna' put you on my prayer list asking for your safety. I'm not some kind of religious freak but DO know which end is up. Take care.
Thanks Brother!
Mg
huklbrry
03-04-2009, 09:30 PM
mike, where did you get that shell carrier on your shotgun?
Mike Grasso
03-05-2009, 11:33 AM
mike, where did you get that shell carrier on your shotgun?
It's the Mesa Tactical 8 ( prefer it over the 6 )
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=335647&kwtid=237457
Mg
huklbrry
03-05-2009, 01:34 PM
Is there any particular reason why you got it sans the rail or was it just preference? Was installation time consuming or difficult?
Mike Grasso
03-06-2009, 01:34 PM
Is there any particular reason why you got it sans the rail or was it just preference? Was installation time consuming or difficult?
It's one piece and includes the rail. That way there isn't any pressure on the receiver, as in earlier models. Just remove the screws, remove OEM rail and replace, takes minutes.
Mg
Duggan
03-07-2009, 04:19 AM
Duggan,
I'm an Operator / Supervisor assigned to a Federal Task Force (ViCAT) that surveils and apprehends Violent Multiple Offenders - (Serial) - Murders, Robberies and Rapists.
Mike
Wow, that's quite a job.
I hope your m4 serves you well.
Mike Grasso
03-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Wow, that's quite a job.
I hope your m4 serves you well.
Only taken me 29 years to get the assignment, I'm a happy camper though!
Mg
huklbrry
03-10-2009, 02:47 PM
Thanx Mike.
TerpX
11-08-2009, 10:27 PM
Mike G, what kind of drawer system do you have? Tuffy? I'd love to pick one up for my Excursion to hold my Benelli M4 and gear. It would be awesome to keep my Marine Corps gear organized as well.
truckcop
11-09-2009, 05:03 PM
Maybe this will tide you over for a few weeks........
Mg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Xf43HmUTwP0/SZhktO1XF9I/AAAAAAAAAUs/A7yhBvgrIOg/s800/DSC_0013.JPG
What make of gun vault is that?
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