3rd time is the charm?

[TMAC]

I have a M2000 that I will now sent back to the factory for evaluation for the 3rd time in 1 year, so for anyone considering be warned - troubles could await you.

#1 Sent gun back due to frequent light primer strikes and misfires, this occured all brands of ammo. Gun was returned in working order and no longer had any misfires, seems trigger was replaced.

#2 The bolt handle started falling out while duck hunting last fall, and on occasion the 3rd shell wouldnt feed. Guns was retuned with a new bolt assembly and some adjustments made to the feed lever which brings up shells.

At this time I have been unable to complete a round of trap or skeet without having constant shell feeding issues, usually 8 - 10 misfeeds per round using all major brand name shells. I have spoke to Benelli CS to arrange a return/repair/ or exchange for the M2000.

#3 I have sent the M2000 back for the 3rd time and am totally dissapointed, the whole adeventure feels like a waste of time and money.
Told CS that an exchange for a new model might be in order and oddly enough they seem to agree, so wait and see.

I know some of you have had great expereinces with this gun, and I am jealous of your good fortune - so hear I am airing out some of my frustration. Another 6 - 8 weeks for repair or replacment? We will see.

[jlefud]

while i have had great luck, i feel your pain tmac. my m2000 works beautifully. last year i bought a simmons 4-12-40 scope for a rifle i sent it back for the 3rd time two weeks ago, after a week i called them to check progress and they said they did not have it so they looked for it and finally found it. now they say 2-4weeks. dang it. 2 years ago i bought a h&r243win in syn&stainless. it shot like crap about a 4" group at 100yds. i sent it back twice replaced the scope once and never go to shoot better than 1.5" at 100. i sold it and bought a savage and never looked back. the scope will be trashed next time. any gun will never be sent back more than twice before i sell it or raise heck with cs. i bet i wasted a $150 on ammo trying to get that 243 hr to shoot. sorry to hear about your m2000, it would suck to have that happwn to mine because i really like the gun and have never had a problem with it.

[TMAC]

I like it too when it works and I wont waste too much time or money on somthing like this. Honestly my plan is if they replace the gun is to not even fire it once and put it up for sale as NIB and move on.

A good friend who is the firearms dept manager at a major chain not to be mentioned said he wishes the store would discontinue selling all the Stoeger products and the Franchi I-12 and 612 auto's. Way too many bad ones for every good one.

[jlefud]

crazy, the guy i useis the gun guy at sportsmans warehouse and says he only has had two ever come back with problems and one they fixed in store. good luck

[TMAC]

You know sometimes I think these sales guys will tell you what you want to hear just to get the sale under their belts. Dicks Sporting goods just seems dumbfounded that I am sending mine back for the 3rd time, and they are question whether or not they should continue to handle the line out the the Green Bay store.

With anything you get the good and the bad, I just got the bad. If it works use it. The guys who have good working M2000's are probably very happy and would reccomend it to anyone.

I am working on a replacment gun with Benelli CS at this time, hopefully the new one will be much improved.

[Webfoot]

TMAC,
I'm sorry to hear about your trouble. Not much more frustrating than having a gun not operate like it should. Too bad you just can't get your money back. You could sell your new replacement on gunbroker and hopefully get something close to what you paid.

I have the wife's approval to get a new shotgun. I think I'm going to get me an SBEII but I plan on keeping my M2000 as a backup.

[tucker301]

TMAC, you've got way too much patience.

I would have wrapped that $300 around a tree a long time ago and taken my lumps and moved on to something else.

You are to be commended for your restraint and resolve, but I truly worry about your judgement.

[TMAC]

You know friends have told me the same. My only good real reason why I am holding out for the replacment of this gun is if I recieve a NIB gun in replacment I will outright sell it and feel good its new and works. I told CS is the old one comes back and hiccuups once it will be returned in pieces (I said this nicely), so be sure of what your doing.

I will be moving on to another brand. I hunt way too much for problems like this to get in the way, so I started window shopping for the one.

Crossing my fingers

[Webfoot]

I'm about two butt hairs away from buying a new shotgun. I've got it narrowed down to the SBEII and ExtremaII. I'm having a tough time.

Two years ago I bought the Model 2000, and ever since I've always wondered what it would be like to have the SBEII. I was not patient and jumped at the Model 2000 because it was easiest. I've been pleased with the gun but its like I'm still not satisfied. My wife is not real happy about it but I think she understands. She just wants to know when it will end (me wanting stuff). I just bought a new mud motor too. But she got a new house this year.

Good luck. Let us know what goes down....

[TMAC]

When I get the M2000 back I will seriously consider a similar purchase for myself, wife might not like the extra cash I shell out but then again it might offset the shopping spree she went on while I was in Germany for a buisness trip recently.

I am torn a few different way at the moment, I like the SBEII and Extrema and have had an oportunity to shoot both. In addition a few friends have Winchester SX2'S and another has a Remington 11-87, so shot them all. The SBEII was the lightest and easiest to swing but a little more felt recoil than the others (inertia vs gas) I liked it, but also liked things about the others - so we will see what happens in the end but thats about 4 - 5 weeks away before mine comes back.

Turkey hunting with my pheasant gun Rem 1100 20ga because the Stoeger is on the fritz. Should be interesting but doable. I will let everyone know how things turn out.

[TMAC]

Final verdict. I spoke with the gunsmith at Benelli CS and they basically reassembled a new gun for me. This is what they found.

1. Bad barrel head spacing, new barrel added to gun.
2. Bad magazine tube spring, new spring added.
3. Bad action spring, new spring added.
4. Bad action bar, new action bar added.
5. Bad shell carrier, new carrier added.

Previous repairs replaced the trigger assembly and bolt with handle. Not much left but the stock and reciever.

The gun was shot 100x using a variety of ammo with no issues at the factory, or at least this is what they are telling me. Why on earth they F*** around with all that and didnt send a new gun is beyond me. Between all the repairs 3x over they had way more cost in repairs than if they would have just sent a new gun.

Benelli insists this gun is fixed for the long term and were insistant about me trying their handy work, and they seemed like they wanted to fight about the replacement. If it hiccups once in the next month or two they will get the replacment on the way, I truley dont understand their thinking but it seems I am left with one option and that is shoot it till it fails repeatedly.

One last thing to mention is the gunsmith I spoke with at Benelli told me that he repairs a lot of M2000's and Franchi I-12's. These guns have parts manufactured in the same factory in Turkey, M2000 is finally assembled in Turkey and I-12 parts are sent to Italy for final assembly. There are only a few small differences between these two guns, and most parts are supposed to be interchangeable. I found this statment rather interesting, enough said.

[Liberty or death Jr.]

I would like this way better, they made sure the barrel, springs, action bar, and all are good, a new gun would have just been a new gun, could have had the same problems your's was having. If the gun doesn't work this time, I'd wrap it around a tree, and get a real gun.

[TMAC]

Only reason I wanted a new gun was to sell locally as a new gun and unfired in the box as factory new. Then I can move on with proceeds from my sale to apply toward the new gun. Now this way I am still stuck with it, ehem until it craps out again.

[Liberty or death Jr.]

How much would you take for the one you are getting back? I figure if it doesn't work this time you will wrap it around a tree or leave it at the bottom of the pond. I looked at a stoeger 2000, I think I could get it to work.

[krr6581]

TMAC, if you want to sell that M2000 I'll buy it from you. I have a dealer you can send it to. Let me know ok?

[TMAC]

Currently they sent my old one back to me repaired. I did shoot it this last weekend and was able to complete a round of skeet without any mishaps, plan on it again on Thursday but may be 3 rounds of skeet to get a better feel for it.

If your interested in the repaired gun, I have to think up a price.

If I need more repair work I will likely get a NIB one out of Benelli then I would say $350 could take it off my hands really easy. The gun is in synthetic/advantage camo with 5 choke tubes.

[Liberty or death Jr.]

I'd have to think about it. But I'm a little interested. I'm planning on getting a Beretta Extema 2 in a few months, but a gun thats $350 and works? Maybe.

[tucker301]

Keep saving towards that Xtrema.

[TMAC]

I hear you there Tucker. I honestly dont want to sell anyone this gun knowing the problems it had in the past, either it will eventually be replaced under warranty or take dirt nap.

[Roller]

Hi, I was just reading up on the m2000,I almost bought one about a month ago.I checked out some message boards on various websites about them and decided aginst buying one.Since reading the story bout this one Im glad I didnt.

[krr6581]

TMAC, sorry for not answering sooner but I am serious about buying it. Actually, I will give my son the money for it and I will let you and him work out the details. He is in the Air Force with a detachment at Fort Gordon, GA. I want to buy it for him to use instead of that old pump he has. As for myself, I have never had a moments problem out of my M2000. Maybe I have just been lucky but it sure will shoot. Just let me know. Or send me an email.