03-30-2005, 10:39 PM
i have a winchester lever action30-30 and i don't know what model this is and also i don't know how to take the rifle apart
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04-03-2005, 10:23 PM
Without a description (barrel length, markings, serial number, etc.) it's not easy to say.
The photos are so small, too.
However, it looks rather like a Winchester 94 antique carbine: receiver with decorative scrollwork and case hardening, brass-plated loading gate, saddle ring on left side (? --- can't tell on your photo), caliber .30-30 only. Made 1964 to 1984.
Could also be the Winchester Model 94 Class Rifle, made from 1968 to 1970. It too has a scroll-engraved receiver, but the loading gate is gold-plated.
It's definitely a Model 94, because of that straight lever (ruling out a Model 64, which had a curved lever and pistol-grip stock).
If the barrel is marked 30 WCF it was made during World War II or before. If it's marked 30-30 it was made after World War II. This is a generality, there may be some Winchester commemoratives out there marked 30 WCF of which I am unware.
A Winchester collector would know, and I'm not one.
Please include the barrel length (measured from the front of the bolt), serial number, closeups on the receiver so we can tell if there is etching or case-hardening (or both) and any markings on the rifle.
The Model 94 is not typically taken apart for cleaning. You open the action, turn it upside down and clean from the muzzle.
Why turn it upside down? So that any patches or crud you push out fall to the ground, not down into the receiver. For this reason, clean it outdoors or over newspapers (which you seem to have plenty of).
Or you put it upside down over a 5-gallon bucket and let the crud and patches fall in there.
Taking this rifle apart requires the driving out of a pin or two, as I recall. Haven't done to my own Model 94 in 30 years or more.
If you wish to give it a good cleaning, you can remove the wooden buttstock and forend and spray the inside of the action with Hoppes Barrel Scrubber, Kleen-Bore Gunk-Out or even automotive brake cleaner. These all come in aerosol cans, with a plastic tube, to flush out crud. They also remove all grease and oil, so you'll have to re-oil the rifle later, both for lubrication and to prevent rust.
Why remove the wood? Because these cleaners will also remove the finish on the wood. They'll also melt plastic in a heartbeat. So, be wary of these cleaners.
And NEVER use these indoors. The fumes are toxic. Do it outdoors, over concrete, or you'll kill the grass on the lawn.
If you aim it right, you can kill the weeds in the cracks of your driveway while blasting crud from your gun! LOL
BEWARE! Use a screwdriver that fits the screw heads perfectly. Usually, this means gunsmith screwdrivers made specifically for this task.
Don't shrug this off and use any ol' screwdriver or you can damage the screw head.
Don't force the screw. If it won't turn with moderate pressure, drop this project from your list.
If you try even harder, you run the risk of the screwdriver suddenly twisting out of the screw slot and leaving a big, ugly burr and damaged screw slot. This looks like **** and affects the rifle's value.
The buttstock is attached with one large screw, at the top tang (the metal portion of the receiver that extends into the wood).
The barrel bands are loosened by turning the screw on the side. I believe it's the right side. These screws often have shallow slots, so if it doesn't turn easily, leave it alone!
But, if you can get the wood off it, then open the action, turn it upside down, and spray up into it. This allows any crud to run out.
DO NOT loosen the screw at the end of the tubular magazine, under the barrel. This screw is under tension from the coil spring in the magazine. Unless you're familiar with it, it will suddenly be propelled by the magazine spring and you run the risk of losing parts.
Your rifle should not require such a thorough cleaning, but if it does that's how to do it.
Better yet, take it to a gunsmith and have him clean it. He won't charge you much and he'll know exactly what you have. He should also be able to give you an approximate value for it, if you're interested -- and every gun owner always is.
04-05-2005, 08:43 PM
yea i think im going to take it to a gun smith to have it taken apart if they mess it up it will be their fault the serial number of the gun is 2803012 where can i go and put in the serial number and see when it was made?? oo yea theres a saddle ring on the left side i found it on the barrel its a model 94 oo hey my loading spring(gate) is messed up where could i go and buy one at here on the web
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