Proud owner of a new condor supreme...questions

[fieldysnuts8]

well i just got a stoeger condor supreme and i spend a few hours cleaning it up and stuff last night. planning on shooting it today or tommorrow. i had a few questions about the barrel firing selector. i know its connected to the safety. but which side shoots which barrel first? does 2 dots shoot the bottom barrel? or is it the other way around.

furthermore i read somewhere that the gun has an auto safety and that every time you open up the gun, the safety turns back on when you close it? is that true?

Also, do i have to select each barrel every time i shoot? or just the first shot, and then the second barrel always follow?

and last but not least...which barrel comes with which choke from the factory and which choke offers better range? im a duck hunter so im used to shooting modified. thanks in advance.

[newtofranchi]

I can't help you with any of your questions, but please keep me informed as to how it works out for you. I'm considering buying this exact gun. I've been doing lots of reading on this board about it and still can't decide.

[GREYTDAD]

I own the Condor Supreme. I think it's a nice gun for the price. Now to try to help you out. The barrel selector only works when the safety is on. When the barrel selector is to the right, the bottom barrel fire first. It may look funny as the 2 dots will line up directly under the "S". It the opposite for firing the top barrel (slide to the left).
When you break the gun open, the safety automatically sets.
As for firing both barrels, I can't amswer that as I can only fire one round at a time at the club I shoot at and havn't got enought confidence to try sporting clays yet.
as for the chokes, I'm still not clear on what does what. All I know is my gun works great, goes bang when I want it to, and I do hit the target every now and then (it's the shooter, not the gun) and all without a problem after 750 rounds through it.
Have fun.

[tinman]

Nice purchase!

As far as the chockes, if you look at the rim of them youll notice hash marks. The one with three is a Modified and the one with four is Improved.

I would put the Improved choke in the barrel you want to fire first and the Modified in the other barrel in case you miss the first shot.

The modified will give you more range.

Hope this helps...

[fieldysnuts8]

wait...so the safety sets every time i open the gun? does that mean i have to take the safety off every time i reload? cause that would be annoying to haveto take it off every time.

[fieldysnuts8]

if the safety does do that...is there any way for me to remove the safety?

[GREYTDAD]

No, Not at all. Break the gun, load the shell, close the gun. Safety is now on. When ready to shoot, move safety up to fire. Fire the gun, break the barrel. spent shell ejects and start over.

[fieldysnuts8]

thats no good. cause when i pheasant hunt i usually walk with the safety off so i can just point and shoot when a bird flushes. i used to walk around with the safety on, but i kept missing shot and stuff like that.

[GREYTDAD]

That's no big deal. When you close the gun, just click the safety off and you're ready to point & shoot.

[timb99]

fieldysnuts8,

Did you take a hunter education course before you started hunting? Do you have good life insurance? Do you have family members who would mourn your death? Do the folks with whom you hunt wear kevlar bulletproof vests and helmets?

Do you expect to never stumble and fall when you're walking through tough corn, milo, and CRP fields?

I hunt pheasants all the time, in Nebraska too, and I guarantee you, I stumble in the field, and you will too.

Hunting with your safety off is absolutely begging and pleading for disaster.

I teach hunter education and that's the kind of behavior we work so hard to stop. It's just plain dangerous.

It takes a fraction of a second to take the safety off after the bird has flushed and you're bringing the gun up to shoot.

It's easy, it DOES NOT inhibit your ability to shoot pheasants, and you can practice it in your basement at home with snap caps.

Practice it at home. Get better at it. Go to the shooting range and practice it. Eventually it will become second nature and you won't even notice yourself doing it.

I beg you, don't jeapordize your life nor the lives of the people with whom you hunt (I'll bet they're friends and/or relatives.)

It's not worth the regret of an accident that could have been prevented.

Follow ALL the safety rules; keep your gun pointed in a safe direction, keep control of the muzzle at all times, treat every gun as if it was loaded, never point at anything you don't want to shoot, keep your finger out of the trigger guard and the safety ON SAFE until it's time to shoot!!!

I can't tell you how many hunting accidents I read about that are caused by errors in judgment such as this.

You sound like a young person, or at least someone new to shotguns and hunting. I've been hunting for 30 years. Please take my advice.

If you haven't taken a hunter education class, go sign up for one immediately because you need it. If you have already taken one, you need to go back and take it again, and listen better this time.

Please don't get started on the wrong foot. Please follow the hunting safety rules. Please live a long healthy life.

Tim Bruggeman
Kansas Hunter Education Instructor

[fieldysnuts8]

i have taken hunters safety. i am young, but not new to hunting. definately not 30 years, but im definately not new to hunting. the times the safety has made me miss pheasants is usually when im wearing gloves and i cant get the right ammount of pressure on the safety or the glove makes my finger slip.

the main thing that bugs me isn't pheasant hunting its when im shooting rocks with my friends and stuff. when you shoot blue rocks you load your gun several times a minute, and it would be annoying to have to take the safety off every single time i open and close the gun.

[timb99]

fieldysnuts8,

I shoot in a weekly skeet league with my Stoeger.

My daughter used my Stoeger for competitive trap shooting until I got her a real trap gun.

The safety is not, and was never, a problem for either of us. Once you get accustomed to your gun and how it works, it will become natural to remember to take the safety off before each shot.

Besides, when you're out shooting blue rocks with your friends, it would be a great time to practice taking the safety off while you're bringing the gun up to your shoulder, so it's second nature when you're out pheasant hunting.

I assure you, this really works!

Be safe!

Tim

[ 01-07-2005, 08:20 AM: Message edited by: timb99 ]

[allan]

Hi there, I got the condor sup o/u at Xmas. I am retired and want to become a skeet shooter. Everything you are hearing on here is true and good info. I only have a few case of ammo thru mine so far and I love it. Yes, the safety needs getting used to but as greytdad said for the MONEY, its a good gun.

Allan