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Tom F
08-29-2004, 09:51 PM
I have a new Condor 12g (standard version) and in preparation for our upcoming waterfowling season I started to shoot a few rounds of skeet. During the first round the fore end of my condor got loose and even fell off once! I noticed that it (fore end)only becomes loose after firing several rounds. It will not loosen by simple breaking open the action repeatedly. But, after a few shots you can see the fore end latch slowly begin to open after each shot. If I do not "squeeze" the fore end back onto the barrels tightly it will continue to loosen and eventually fall off. If I squeeze it tight after each shot it will be fine but I should not have to do this to a new gun regardless of its price. I checked to make sure the screws holding the latch were tight and the latch spring is in place and appears fine. Anyone else having this problem?? Is there an easy/quick fix or do I need to send it back to the factory?

Doctor
08-30-2004, 08:37 AM
i would not send it back to the factory, my condor will have been gone 3 weeks this Wed. and all i hear from the factory is the waiting list is 4-6 weeks.
I'll give you the same advice that someone else on this web gave to me. if you have even the smallest amount mechanical aptitude, take it apart, lay it out and make notes of order of assemble and figure it out yourself.
i boaght mine from Galyans and they are useless. as a matter of fact i took it back after two hours without a shot fire through it and was told they wouldnt take it back for any reason because it was used now that i took it out of the store.
From what i've seen the gun is pretty simple by design. Your symptom i've heard before and haven't heard a fix but most likely a file and emory will fix it.
Fezman has some good ideas about this gun and obviously more patience then me.

Doc

House
09-10-2004, 03:14 AM
I had the same problem with my Condor O/U. I would shoot a bunch of rounds through the thing and then when I openned the gun the fore end would fall off. I had the most trouble shooting trap. (not fun having a smokin' hot set of barrels coming off and me catching them!) After a couple of times with the same result the gun seemed to stay together. I stripped the gun down and took a look at the guts and there wasn't anything I could see wrong. I guess I chalked it up to being new.....works fine now....

Hiller
09-10-2004, 05:48 PM
This has nothing to do with the Condor, but it does have something to do with Stoeger, I recently sent my 12 gauge model 2000 back because of a sight adjustment problem on my slug barrel. They told me that they were on a ten day turnaround for repairs. Just wondering if I was lied to or not
Well Thanks
Hiller

House
09-10-2004, 09:55 PM
That wouldn't suprise me a bit with the turn-round on the repair. I have been fortunate enough not to have anything major happen with my shotgun. I think that it was Fez who sent his firearm back and they jerked him round somethin' fierce. Listen to Doc, the gun is simple in design....take it apart, move parts, clean the packing crap out, and break the gun open and close it a bunch of times.(with the O/U model that is) It should work for ya after that!

[ 09-10-2004, 08:56 PM: Message edited by: House ]

nmarro
09-10-2004, 10:38 PM
my condor supreme is about 1 month old now, and i have put about 350+ rounds through it, luckily i have not had one problem what so ever. i would suggest just as "house" did and break the gun down and clean it, and re oil it. good luck

Hiller
09-10-2004, 11:13 PM
What do you mean it wouldn't surprise you about the turnaround on repair, I was lied to or it really will only take about 2 weeks??
Thanks
Hiller

House
09-11-2004, 04:17 AM
My mistake, took it as ten weeks not days...sorry! Ten days would suprise me with Stoeger from what I hear. If I was a bettin' man, I would surely lay money on the fact that you won't see that gun in ten days....nor have anyone even pick it up to look it over in that short amount of time.....

[ 09-11-2004, 03:18 AM: Message edited by: House ]

Hiller
09-11-2004, 08:57 AM
House,
Sorry I guess we both misunderstood what we werer both talking about. Well that sucks to hear that. The thing I don't understand is that the customer service guy told me they are turning guns around in 10 days, that is business days, which is really two weeks, plus about another week for all the shipping . Oh well, my gun is gone now. hopefully not forever. Well
Thanks House
Later
Hiller

fezman
09-13-2004, 12:18 AM
it took over about 2 mos to get my gun back and i had to raise **** and send two nasty letters snail mail and 1 email to finaly get some satisfacton. i would take a realy close look at fit of the forarm to the bbl. also chek to make shure that the lock in engageing fully agenst the bbl catch. when you install the forarm on the bbl make shure to wiggle the latching button and the forarm and make shure that its fully engaged in the lug on the bbl if it isnt see if you can adjust it. also make shure the latch on the bottom of the forarm is moveing freely but not too loose that is the only thing that holds the forarm to the bbl. i had some trouble with myn but it seemed to go away after a few times after i broke the gun down. since the season is appon us i would not send the gun back because of the work load that the smiths are under.

Hiller
09-15-2004, 05:36 PM
Frezman,
What Stoeger are you talking about, the Condor,, or the 2000 in your last post
Thanks
Hiller

birddog
09-15-2004, 09:31 PM
his 'SCAVENGER' tongue.gif .

sorry fez had to do it

Tom F
09-15-2004, 10:36 PM
I have broken the gun down dozens of times and I clean it very well afer each use. I check the latch and the spring and make sure it is good and tight. I have shot well over 350 rounds and still having the forearm work loose while shooting trap. It seems to work just fine if I take shots spaced apart while hunting. Its just when firing one after another during trap that this happens. I will probably send it back in to Stoeger after this season is over. Other than this problem I love the gun. I shoot it very well and it seems to fit me just right.

fezman
09-16-2004, 12:04 AM
thanks birddog i accualy built a realy snazzy wood case for my boat ore last night. im going to take it into work and soak it about 10 coats of automotive clear coat. when it eventualy dries it will look like glass. it will be a shame to put such a cheep gun in it :D